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Excellent movie! IMHO, best of all 3... shame there's only 3 though.. heh...
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Posted: 2004-01-14 17:42:42
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there were some scenes that i thought sam and frodo are about to kiss. ahehehehehe . . . . . for best actor? i would go for . . . . . . . my precious . . . . . . .
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Posted: 2004-01-14 18:55:28
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you and me both! hahahaha... now if they DID kiss, that would've been the end of that. I'd have walked out of the cinema there and then... hehehe
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Posted: 2004-01-14 19:07:31
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On 2004-01-14 18:55:28, tom_riddle wrote:
there were some scenes that i thought sam and frodo are about to kiss. ahehehehehe . . . . . for best actor? i would go for . . . . . . . my precious . . . . . . .
Andy Serkis was on Conan last night. His screen test for Gollum is an extra on the Two Towers EE DVD and it's really creepy/interesting.
!snap
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Posted: 2004-01-14 19:09:34
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On 2004-01-10 16:31:25, snap-hiss wrote:
I wouldn't go that far. His interaction with the Ring is very interesting in my opinion.
alright, maybe i was a little harsh....
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On 2004-01-10 16:31:25, snap-hiss wrote:
There were enough changes made for the general public already, the ending absolutley had to resolve the characters.
yes it did, but resolving the characters in a film and a novel are two entirely different propositions. the film in this case tried to do a "book" ending which didn't quite work because it was too long. i think it needed to be a bit tighter, rather than the episodic nature of the last half-hour. the whole faramir-eowyn story was omitted so why did we have to see bilbo's journey across the sea? admittedly he's fairly important in the novels but not so prominent in the films, especially for those who aren't familiar with The Hobbit. there were five logical end points to the film in the last half-hour, if you count the deliberate "fool the audience" one. any of them would have made a satisfying
film ending (although i like the symmetry of returning to the shire). i just think the characters could have been resolved with a little more polish.
just my 2c.
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Posted: 2004-01-19 00:02:56
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I wish that in the extended DVD they'd go back to how the Ring is destroyed in the book, rather than the pointless bit with Frodo falling off the cliff too in the film.
Can't see it though somehow.
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Posted: 2004-01-19 12:38:14
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No, it isn't very likely.
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Posted: 2004-01-19 18:58:39
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so why did we have to see bilbo's journey across the sea? admittedly he's fairly important in the novels but not so prominent in the films, especially for those who aren't familiar with The Hobbit.
The Grey Havens scene was more to resolve Frodo and Gandalf than for Bilbo.
I wish that in the extended DVD they'd go back to how the Ring is destroyed in the book, rather than the pointless bit with Frodo falling off the cliff too in the film.
I totally agree. One of my biggest issues with the film is how the Ring gets to the fire. Frodo basicly pushes Gollum off the edge, which changes everything, taking away a lot from the character of Gollum.
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[ This Message was edited by: snap-hiss on 2004-01-19 21:15 ]
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Posted: 2004-01-19 22:10:45
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The Grey Havens scene was more to resolve Frodo and Gandalf than for Bilbo.
maybe so, but i don't think it was handled that well. it seemed, purely from a film narrative perspective (i.e. forgetting the books for a moment), almost as if frodo was tacked on as an afterthought. just because something works in a novel doesn't mean it will translate so well into film. IMHO this scene falls into that category. frodo finishing the story would have been a fair resolution, and the symmetry with bilbo in the first film was nice. i think the disparity in narrative pace between the last half-hour and the rest of the film was the main issue though, rather than the content. i will say however, that on a second viewing the ending works a lot better - probably because you know what to expect rather than the continual "oh, it's over....no it's not" every six minutes.
I totally agree. One of my biggest issues with the film is how the Ring gets to the fire. Frodo basicly pushes Gollum off the edge, which changes everything, taking away a lot from the character of Gollum.
i also agree totally.
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Posted: 2004-01-20 00:01:26
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Thanks snap-hiss and gelfen for agreeing with my sentiments
Although I think Peter Jackson has done a far better job with the films than anyone could've wished for, he does seem to have a strange liking for people falling off cliffs
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Posted: 2004-01-20 09:46:45
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