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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@mib1800

Although making it easier for the average customer to download and install applications would no doubt increase sales, it isn't the only issue with the potential to hold back the spread of smartphones. There is also the point that most people have no real use for a smartphone; I have a feeling marketing will play a large part in trying to convince people that they need a smartphone, whether such campaigns awill be successful or not is an interesting point of debate.

I would have to disagree with your assesment that approximately 40% of all mobile phone users will want to use a smartphone, I think this is a gross over-estimation I would have thought that a figure of around 15% - 20% of customers may be intereste din using a smartphone, whether they will or not is anothe rmatter entirely. One has to remember that most of the world's GSM users are not wealthy people, many of them living in poorer areas of the world; smartphones are unlikely to be at the top of their list of priorities. My point about the actual need for smartphones ties in here too, poorer GSM users are very unlikely to need a smartphone.
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Posted: 2004-09-29 07:34:32
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asfaq Posts: 41

I totally agree with masseur.. Look whats happening in Japan and am sure that Palm or any of the PDA manufacturing companies are not doing very well anymore there.. Its just inevitable.. A classic example of this point is to look at how the walkman and radio have converged over the years..



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Posted: 2004-09-29 07:35:39
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Oco Posts: > 500

Because size matter...




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Posted: 2004-09-29 08:46:19
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mib1800 Posts: > 500

@scotsboyuk

i really understand your view that many do not hv the use of smartphone. on the rational basis, it truly make sense.

but human buying habits sometimes are really not rational. there is always the "herd instinct" or the "more for the same price mentality".

for example, leaving out preferences for a brand or design, would someone go for a S700 or the Nk6630 if the price are similar. To me, the answer is quite obvious.

on your point of affordability, i think u probably that the price of Nk6600 is now cheaper than a K700. so slowly, u will see smartphone permeating to the mid/lower end market. i think nokia has the intention of doing that with series 60.

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Posted: 2004-09-29 08:52:14
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@mib1800

You make a valid point old boy, but I would have to say that the 'buying like lemmings' analogy can only be taken so far. Not everyone rushes out to buy a PC because it will allow them to do more than a piece of paper and a pen. It doesn't matter how cheap something is, if people don't need it, or don't think they need it to be more accurate, then they won't buy it.
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Posted: 2004-09-29 08:56:57
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masseur Posts: > 500

I'd like to go back to the original posters question and suggest that we do not need to say goodbye to PDA with phones or to phones with PDA but say hello to the convergent technology that will eventually bring them so close together that they will actually be the same thing and there will be no need to make a choice
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Posted: 2004-09-29 08:58:49
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mib1800 Posts: > 500

@scotsboyuk

a lot of people upgrade their phones regularly. so the next time round these people will exercise their "buying like lemmings" (to quote u - i'm not familiar with this phrase)
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Posted: 2004-09-29 09:03:22
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@masseur

I said something along those lines earlier in the thread.

@mib1800

I'm not surprised you aren't familiar with that phrase since I just made it up!

I still think that the majority of consumers will avoid dedicated smartphones, opting instead for mobiles with more advanced features, but, which are simpler to operate than smartphones.
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Posted: 2004-09-29 09:12:41
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masseur Posts: > 500

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On 2004-09-29 09:12:41, scotsboyuk wrote:
@masseur
I said something along those lines earlier in the thread.


then we agree

for now though I prefer the separate devices and indeed my new iPAQ with VGA screen is arriving tomorrow!
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Posted: 2004-09-29 09:28:31
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@masseur

Someone will be at the front door early tomorrow, waiting for the postman to arrive!
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Posted: 2004-09-29 09:34:47
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