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What has faith got to do with Buddhism?
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Posted: 2004-11-16 08:33:49
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it could be any religion, such as hinduism, sun worship, or whatever. Certainly as a Buddhist you follow a certain process that you believe that will make you better; what else is that than faith?
There's no need to be pretentious here.
I read Hebrews 11, and although I must admit its very inspiring, how do i know that these examples are not merely stories?
yes, many people have died for their faiths, and I do not wish to discredit their sacrifices. However, does not faith lead to things like suicide bombings? People who believe that they have been divinely appointed to do "God's work?" Faith is, in essence blind. And being quite cynical, how am I to have this faith?
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Posted: 2004-11-16 08:41:00
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I take medicine from the doctor if I want to get better. That's trust, not faith. In buddhism I only need to do what is of benefit to me; I don't need to "believe" in anything. I am not being pretentious
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[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2004-11-16 07:52 ]
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Posted: 2004-11-16 08:47:57
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whoopie our definitions of faith and trust are different.
Its too bad that people define these words differently, there is no 'one given' definition.
Now can we get back to the actual discussion?
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Posted: 2004-11-16 08:55:00
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I'm sure you didn't read what I've asked you to. So you keep use the word 'faith' wrongfully. That's it. Of course it's unreliable if you don't trust it. And you don't trust it because It's unreliable. It's circular. You can only get out of rounding you tail by getting over your cynical state of mind, having a very little real faith. A man is good according to the righteousness of his faith. Which you cannot understandcuz you're cynical towards the versatility of the bible.
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Posted: 2004-11-16 08:57:03
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On 2004-11-16 08:55:00, kimcheeboi wrote:
Now can we get back to the actual discussion?
Thank you.
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Posted: 2004-11-16 08:57:32
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On 2004-11-16 08:57:03, PIANOSSO wrote:
I'm sure you didn't read what I've asked you to. So you keep use the word 'faith' wrongfully. That's it. Of course it's unreliable if you don't trust it. And you don't trust it because It's unreliable. It's circular. You can only get out of rounding you tail by getting over your cynical state of mind, having a very little real faith. A man is good according to the righteousness of his faith. Which you cannot understandcuz you're cynical towards the versatility of the bible.
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See? That's my point!
I want to know why I can trust the Bible and have faith in what it is when to me its very unreliable!
And i do think youre traveling in circles too, you continuously support the Bible with the Bible, but what i want to know is why the Bible is a valid document today, based upon the reasons i posted earlier in this thread.
And when you discuss faith, how is it different to be an adherent of a different religion? How come they are not just as right as you?
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Posted: 2004-11-16 09:03:00
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Trust is a learned experience. Faith, by its nature, is belief beyond experience.
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Posted: 2004-11-16 09:14:09
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can you please stop?!
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Posted: 2004-11-16 09:18:00
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@kim i don't support bible with bible. I support bible with my faith in the ONE who inspired it. How do i know It's right and true ? It works in my life and other's. As abs said, the power of experience.
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Posted: 2004-11-16 09:42:17
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