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skyXperia Posts: 175


On 2018-07-19 01:32:01, RacSony wrote:

On 2018-07-19 01:13:56, Archdragoon wrote:
No info about that from trustworthy source yet.

But I guess the aperture will be 1.8 or bigger.

OIS is possible as well.



I'm certain this Xperia is H8416, which has been confirmed on Unprof.

The same CPU, the same screen resolution, same RAM with XZ2 and only difference will be camera upgrade?


And a twisted Design?

I hope it is not like the XZ and XZs. Almost zero changes.
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Posted: 2018-07-19 01:58:54
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RacSony Posts: > 500


On 2018-07-19 01:58:54, skyXperia wrote:

On 2018-07-19 01:32:01, RacSony wrote:

On 2018-07-19 01:13:56, Archdragoon wrote:
No info about that from trustworthy source yet.

But I guess the aperture will be 1.8 or bigger.

OIS is possible as well.



I'm certain this Xperia is H8416, which has been confirmed on Unprof.

The same CPU, the same screen resolution, same RAM with XZ2 and only difference will be camera upgrade?


And a twisted Design?

I hope it is not like the XZ and XZs. Almost zero changes.


that's what I'm afraid of...
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Posted: 2018-07-19 02:17:13
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HxH Posts: > 500

Ambient Flow maybe not widely favorite including myself could agree on that part.

Design is too much forward looking for some reason behind it and they not really good at talk about but definitely not failure.

We just push the damn change button in wrong place and wrong time, that's indeed quite a disaster happening right now.


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Posted: 2018-07-19 05:19:55
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

I was just thinking about this....

Mobile01 and Eprice have pretty detailed articles on how DUAL CAM works.
They explain what it can and cannot do.
I am 100% sure many sites won't bother to do same, so ppl will think both sensors work together all the time.
But they do not. Tons of ppl even believe P20 Pro uses all 3 same time.
I have seen ppl on internet waiting for 115 or 120 pts from dxo.
I would feel satisfied if XZ2 earns 96 and 104 for Premium.
Mate 20 Pro will be #1 of 2018. The 1/1.7" gives huge advantage..

XZ1 was not tested, so xz3 will probably be left out too.
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Posted: 2018-07-19 08:02:44
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spektykles Posts: 367


The next and its camera thickness....

Maybe the next one should curve more aggressively
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Posted: 2018-07-19 12:22:03
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Archdragoon Posts: > 500


On 2018-07-19 12:22:03, spektykles wrote:

The next and its camera thickness....

Maybe the next one should curve more aggressively


If it curve and thick body come with great camera I think most of users can accept it.

BTW look at that module make me like
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Posted: 2018-07-19 12:29:23
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

H84?
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Posted: 2018-07-19 12:37:19
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spektykles Posts: 367


On 2018-07-19 12:29:23, Archdragoon wrote:
If it curve and thick body come with great camera I think most of users can accept it.

BTW look at that module make me like



Here is from my personal perspective:

I would say the decision to make a curve in 2018 Xperia was a great choice and its unique. For example, if you say like flatten the current XZ2P and a hump for its dual camera, the thickness still the same as the curve, there is no way around it. But from the eye, its much easier to accept than curve back. But ofcourse ppl will say why not make it thicker to cover the hump , why not make it flush to the phone, Sony gone the Chinese/Apple way of camera, and so on...

And then, if you go to the way of putting camera at its corner, like the old Xperias, then it would be slimmer but ofc you now having the bezel that everybody hating it. And then you will have 2 way to go: phone thicker or display bezel thicker instead

And there goes ppl who will rant and say why not OIS, muh features... to the camera , make it larger, etc...well you can see the camera already thick and its the 2nd largest sensor equipped on flagship device. Now multiply it by 2 and add 14 lens for it. And with OIS, few more milimeters and its thicker


And here comes the battery, ppl will say the phone already thick, why not putting more battery in it. Well the truth is yes you can put more battery, but only if your phone designs boxy and not a curve. Battery tech still not flexible enough to make a curve battery other than stacking multiple battery, and ofcourse putting to much will make it hot and gone like Note7
Sorry for my English, Im Asian
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-07-19 12:10 ]

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Posted: 2018-07-19 13:10:00
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

I am not sure if I understood picture well.

Instead of 11mm in the center and 6mm near sides this one is slimmer in the center and thicker near sides whice makes it not that curved.
Am I right?
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Posted: 2018-07-19 13:21:05
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Ppl Posts: > 500


On 2018-07-19 13:10:00, spektykles wrote:

On 2018-07-19 12:29:23, Archdragoon wrote:
If it curve and thick body come with great camera I think most of users can accept it.

BTW look at that module make me like



Here is from my personal perspective:

I would say the decision to make a curve in 2018 Xperia was a great choice and its unique. For example, if you say like flatten the current XZ2P and a hump for its dual camera, the thickness still the same as the curve, there is no way around it. But from the eye, its much easier to accept than curve back. But ofcourse ppl will say why not make it thicker to cover the hump , why not make it flush to the phone, Sony gone the Chinese/Apple way of camera, and so on...


[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-07-19 12:10 ]



I don't agree, when people said "no camera hump" they wanted that space to be filled with battery or something actually useful. What Sony did is to fill it with glass and air.

A camera hump would have been acceptable, or at least if the thickess actually came with some legit reason. Comfort in hand is not enough to justify "no hadphone jack" "no bigger battery" "no ois" nothing. How can Sony think they can move forward this way. Even with the current design if the curve got to ~9 mm with a camera hump it wouldn't have looked as disastrous as it looks now. Big, thick and heavy is not a combination people are asking, at least not for phones.

What I'm also curious about is that XZ Premium and XZ1 had a different internal design. Some said it took serious R&D but now they ditched it. Why?
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Posted: 2018-07-19 13:36:58
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