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don't be so sure mate...
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Posted: 2010-04-29 20:45:49
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In this matter I'm like Steve Jobs and Elm is like Adobe Flash, if you know what I mean It is good but not good enough for me, let me clarify my opinion...

1. No camera cover
2. No xenon

Both are not "must have" options for most of us. For me the cover is very important, xenon is less but I like it anyway.

3. C901 camera is super easy to modify, Elm driver is huge and it's hard to understand anything

Again, who cares? Well, I'm really happy that I could free the real power of C901 but both with Elm are good in original form. Potential of modified C901 is huge that's true, low-light/night quality is great with longer exposure time, etc. but modding and manual options are a bit of extravagance and for sure not "must have" option for most of us.

4. Elm has VGA video recording while C901 has QVGA

No comment haha

5. Colors

Both have great and vivid colors, nothing else to add.

6. Really weird 3 horizontal lines on Elm pictures

How is this possible? Very good camera with such issue? I hope this will be fixed with FW update to make owners 100% happy.

7. Contrast

Elm cuts off small part of dark colors, this makes them darker. Better? I wasn't be so sure. I was using this trick in C901 and sometimes results were better, however most often they were bad. First problem was dark shadows, very unnatural for my eye, second problem are darker low-light pictures. We want to see more details isn't? I didn't liked this trick but I saw nice shadows from C901 before and this is something that I just can't jump over. For somebody with Elm this doesn't make any difference because he is accustomed to pictures from Elm. C901 user is happy, Elm user is happy too

8. Autoexposure

C901 has tendency to underexpose and Elm has tendency to overexpose. You have more chances to get pale picture from C901 if you don't care about proper autoexposure.

9. Sharpness and details

This is what makes a difference! Noise reduction in Elm seems to be on "remove all" priority while C901 is more liberal. Noise is not always bad, it also creates a details, otherwise pictures are too soft. Elm use high sharpness of the edges, this doesn't make better details but better visibility of the edges which means much sharper picture - simple. C901 use medium sharpness of the edges, it doesn't have to use high because of more liberal noise (details) reduction. Is this ok? Well, results are not bad but in fact a bit too soft. Instead of use high edges sharpness which doesn't look good I decided to increase sharpness of details (C901 have controls of edges and details sharpness) and this is it! Now sharpness is better and still natural, max details sharpness in macro mode just rocks, ha! Only in v6.3...

Something more? I don't know.

C901 can be easily tuned as Elm is. Below first pic is normal, second is Elm like. Shadows are way too dark, edge sharpness is abstract. Anyway, WOW factor can be different for us and my choice is natural - normal version which means C901.







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Posted: 2010-04-29 22:33:57
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Is there a tutorial where to put the "GFX"?
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Posted: 2010-04-30 02:25:45
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@raider

After reading your comparision with elm, i am really tempted to buy 901. But as now my pocket doesnot allow. i will definately put my hand on it sooner or later.
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Posted: 2010-04-30 06:32:02
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@ ceaser2008

we would love you to join our very happy crowd (which is still growing) of c901 users with Raiderski in the front of us leading us to shots that is sometimes hard to believe that they come out only from phone and not some really expensive photo camera
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Posted: 2010-04-30 07:54:13
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by some modification to *.ic file located on tpa/preset/system/icons/
And now it seems more easier since "SE ImageTool v2.6" was out even it still beta version but it was very easy to change our icon. We could got this tool at http://depositfiles.com/en/files/b8rvfobdn (credits goes to approriate user who make this tool)
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Posted: 2010-04-30 10:05:30
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Thank you.
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Posted: 2010-04-30 10:17:19
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mhyke
C901 is not ready for VGA Yes, it can record but low bitrate and low FPS are stoppers and I have to give up. Sorry if I gave empty hope, I didn't expected so much problems.

ceaser2008
Don't worry mate I also wasn't able to buy C901 when I wanted to have it. The phone not a hare, won't escape
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Posted: 2010-04-30 12:17:37
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nah, its ok raiderski

now you can concentrate more on Still Camera enhancements



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Posted: 2010-04-30 13:06:45
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I hope someday there will be come someone who could do miracle by make a patch as like as amir's patch in K800i. K800i former user surely know what I mean here.

@raider
No problem with video recording, now u could give more concentration on still picture development...i hope this version are not a final one.
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Posted: 2010-04-30 15:36:00
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