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badassmam Posts: > 500

What's Samsung got to do with anything apart from paying people to do fake reviews and sneaky shit? Samsung, Apple and Huawei 'invest' in DXO and stuff that helps them, Sony supplies Huawei with sensors that top those types of chart but their devices are terrible. Wake up guys, it's a dirty business.

Sony Mobile has been terribly managed, consistently cutting corners but they're no shit company. Their camera, audio, gaming and TV products are some of the best and their phones have a quality about them despite some stupid decisions. Quality does not equal sales today, there's a lot of other factors to consider.

Performance benchmark: OnePlus
Camera benchmark: Huawei/Apple
Sales: Samsung
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Posted: 2019-12-15 21:02:28
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Beeplots_11 Posts: 35

https://androidnext.info/?p=1063
sony - Quad Bayer
samsung - Nonuplet Bayer

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Posted: 2019-12-15 21:03:25
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Of course, there are those that think quadbayer/tetracell is better option.
Other are sure it's not.
Samsung Mobile belongs to group 2.

Samsung and Sony are selling those very high MP because they know chinese brands would be 🤩.
108MP 1/1.33" has same pixel density of FF with more than 300MP.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-12-15 21:46 ]

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Posted: 2019-12-15 22:44:23
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rubik_cat Posts: 64

I can't understand why hate and try to diminish Samsung. No matter how blame Samsung, it doesn't change. Sony fail to survive, but Samsung did.

Samsung build great phones, put lots of money for R&D, they know importance of marketing.

We should accept Xperia is lack of competition. Both on hardware itself and marketing.

we have to see why most people choose Galaxy over other android phones.

Europe was Sony's foreground. But now, newcomers like Huawei, OnePlus, even HMD takes market share.

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Posted: 2019-12-16 00:32:29
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moogoo Posts: > 500

@rubik_cat - why should sony continue to support software/apps for features that are standard on android now? night light and digital wellbeing are part of android and no longer need a separate app.


samsung has a lot more money to put into R&D because it's simply that much bigger of a company. not only that, they are also backed by the south korean government. can't bash them for it. it's just the fact.

sony on the other hand have great things going for them but also bad. they could be doing a lot better in mobile but a lot of bad decisions lead them to where they are now. poor management, lack of marketing? there is probably no single cause but many.

sony is still the leader in image sensors and if they can utilize them and their camera tech in new xperia phones, it will be successful with their target market of creators and professionals. sony isn't targeting the mass market.

they should take the xperia 1, improve the camera hardware and software, address the big complaints people are having, and send out a beast phone that will lead the way for creators and film/video/photo professionals.

we'll see what they do. i hope they do improve on the xperia 1. cause that will be my next phone! no more overheating please.
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Posted: 2019-12-16 01:24:41
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Who got caught years ago paying people to bash HTC?
Yeah, HTC was #1 among android brands.
Now not even top 1000000000000000000 ......

Probably Samsung Semicon may make more money than whole Sony.
They should be miles ahead of other since they have much more resources.

Most sold flagships are those that cost more (Samsung, Huawei and Apple).
If price were factor, OnePlus would be selling 50 million units per year.
Probably barely pass 3.


https://sumahoinfo.com/?p=36974 One with 6, one with 12.
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Posted: 2019-12-16 01:47:02
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badassmam Posts: > 500

I never said Samsung phones are bad, I'm just saying that they took the opportunity with DXO to help sales as an example while Sony and HMD don't. You can debate the ethics but the fact is that Samsung got many things right while Sony messed up many things year after year.

I'm saying that Sony products aren't bad but they made mistakes and got themselves in this position as opposed to the likes of Samsung and Apple making phones 10x better because they're not. They're not as rich as Samsung because Sony aren't as successful, simple as that.
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Posted: 2019-12-16 01:55:06
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tai020381 Posts: > 500


On 2019-12-16 01:55:06, badassmam wrote:
I never said Samsung phones are bad, I'm just saying that they took the opportunity with DXO to help sales as an example while Sony and HMD don't. You can debate the ethics but the fact is that Samsung got many things right while Sony messed up many things year after year.

I'm saying that Sony products aren't bad but they made mistakes and got themselves in this position as opposed to the likes of Samsung and Apple making phones 10x better because they're not. They're not as rich as Samsung because Sony aren't as successful, simple as that.


Yeah I felt sad for Sony because they came up with many firsts and innovations but with little marketing and advertisements to showcase what their innovations can achieve or outshine competitors. Example the 4k HDR display, 960fps super slow motion and their camera sensors which competitors copied and showcased which made many people believed its their "invention" ...
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Posted: 2019-12-16 03:54:28
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unfadedghost Posts: 98


On 2019-12-15 13:06:26, Hawk12 wrote:
So, gossips on reddit are true.
"1.1" with 12 + 12 + 12 ..... 🤬


Imx363 is old already. Just another simple 12MP 1/2.55".
Why not 563 , considering it has same specs but much newer?

Let me guess.
They want 12 to keep the 10fps AF/AE.
Interesting the fact A7R4 does the same at 61MP with faster AF while using much weaker CPU.
There is no way the current Bionz X has half power of SD865.



It's all about cost.
imx363 is very cheap
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Posted: 2019-12-16 05:00:26
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unfadedghost Posts: 98

Look at those bullshit, hhhhhh.
Poor fanboy, you must be an orphan

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Posted: 2019-12-16 05:13:33
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