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What high-end SE phone has ever been carried by a provider in the U.S. ?
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Posted: 2008-10-21 19:59:37
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The Sweden phones don't look like the real final thing.
Why? What means final to you? All missing (and not announced) features suddenly appear in the X1 or what?
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Posted: 2008-10-21 21:40:30
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I played with an X1 today at Gitex...gr8 design, gr8 material...but the phone is a little slow... its the retail version and it will be out in 2 weeks here is Dubai, alongside with the C905...that is very ugly by the way...
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Posted: 2008-10-21 23:15:22
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On 2008-10-21 21:40:30, norti wrote:
The Sweden phones don't look like the real final thing.
Why? What means final to you? All missing (and not announced) features suddenly appear in the X1 or what?
Hi norti,
Certainly I don't have a Sweden X1 in my hand (In fact I have none) I didn't say they are not. I said it "looks" to me that after reading posts from dozens of "fortunate" Sweden owners, I noticed several have doubts and some even complain openly. In the other hand no one here can verify the actual final specs and on top of that SE stops shipping...?? what's going on here?
I don't know. Do you know?.
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Posted: 2008-10-22 00:10:01
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On 2008-10-21 19:59:37, WhyBe wrote:
What high-end SE phone has ever been carried by a provider in the U.S. ?
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Posted: 2008-10-22 02:56:25
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Wow! That's terrible.
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Posted: 2008-10-22 05:19:35
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On 2008-10-21 19:59:37, WhyBe wrote:
What high-end SE phone has ever been carried by a provider in the U.S. ?
hi whybe,
None, really. I think the best ones are really medium range like w810, w760 with AT&T. I'm not too familiar with the other USA carriers.
Question: Why the high-end phones which are high priced sell like hot cakes in Europe while there almost non-existing in USA, I thought the big spenders were in USA.
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Posted: 2008-10-22 05:22:26
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My guess is that the low-end and mid-end phones are being pushed so hard by the providers. The high-end stuff is usually off in the corner somewhere with the huge price tag above it. iPhone being the exception. Those shopping mall kiosks never have the high-end stuff in there either. Also, people don't like those high priced data plans you have to purchase along with the high-end phone. Why they are so successful in Europe ? I don't know. Maybe it's just a cultural difference--3G has been in Europe alot longer too, I believe. U.S. is relatively new to 3G. In the U.S., I think the iPhone, G1 (Android), and new Blackberries (Bold) will be the big selling smart phones.
I thought the big spenders were in USA.
We're a nation of frugal Wal-Mart shoppers. Don't let the movies, TV shows and music fool you
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-22 05:54 ]
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Posted: 2008-10-22 05:49:52
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imho iPhone isn't a high end device. Mundane camera, no generic bluetooth support (gprs modem, file transfer, pan etc), no flash, no mms, no handwriting, completely proprietary application platform, no mass storage support, no expandable memory, the list goes on and on. If it didn't have one or two of those things it could still be considered a high end device, but to be so short on BASIC features..?
It's a fancy feature phone in the upper end of that segment that appeals to a broad range of AVERAGE users who don't demand specific features that are considered de rigueur in a high end smartphone.
Many industry pundits proclaim iphone is not even a smartphone. For example Eric Zeman of Information Week: "The iPhone is not a smartphone. It is not meant for enterprise users. Apple may claim that it is a solid messaging device, that it syncs with your contacts databases, and that it can view Microsoft Word and Excel files, but it doesn't have near the enterprise integration capabilities that true smartphones offer. And it doesn't run third-party applications. (The Sarafi-based "apps" that Steve Jobs said developers could create for the iPhone don't count.) The iPhone may offer a fancy UI and other advanced interactivity, but in the end, most of the services it provides (Google Maps, music playback, video playback, SMS, mobile e-mail) are available on other, far-less-expensive feature phones."
Those who defend it as a smartphone say things like "The iPhone is worthy of being categorized as a smartphone by virtue of the way it integrates voice and data functions into one device," Carmi Levy,
http://www.betanews.com/artic[....]ne_Not_a_Smartphone/1169746276
If that were the case, then every phone with 3G and call functionality could be classed as a smartphone! I admit the iphone is a fantastically engineered feature phone with some great UI innovations, but this does not make it a smartphone or a high end device.
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Posted: 2008-10-22 11:21:33
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@max_wedge
Certainly isn't a high end device! One of my Swedish mates who moved from his "sluggish P1" to the iPhone 3G has just given his away to his daughter on the basis it simply does not do what his old P1 DOES!
A point I made to an O2 sales person last weekend when I went in to ask about the X1 and the clown tried to sell me an iPhone his response, "Yeah but d iPhone is cooler init" Muppet.
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Posted: 2008-10-22 12:09:12
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