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BELONGS TO MACEDONIA???? issue s nonsense. Greece belongs to Greece. Is there any doubt?
If I have done a failure then,
1-I apologize for that.
If I have not (cannot remember what I did really)
1-Be stay everything same...
(note: There s no Kurdistan,it s a falsified statements from some weak ethnic groups in Iraq,but there s a Macedonia)
with my best wishes,
CDTRF
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Posted: 2005-09-19 12:16:34
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Well to refresh your memory Clearday here is what you posted in the Macedonia is Greece thread>
Then a few pages down you wrote "No, part of Greece belongs to Macedonia"
That is VERY insultive & provocative to Greece.
The thread Macedonia is Greece is on the bottom of the first page.
If you are sincere & you know what you are apologising about then I accept your apology. But unfortunately it looks like you need to get educated about Macedonia. YES there is a Macedonia and it it situated IN Greece. Northern Greece to be exact. You should know because your leader Kemal Attaturk was born in Thessaloniki which is the capital of Macedonia. There's a little country north of Greece which likes to call itself "Macedonia" but they are Slavs, the Greeks have been using the name Macedonia for thousands of years and they have no right to call their country Macedonia.
Clearday, read all the "Macedonia is Greece" post & read the links I provided
And yes, there is a Kurdistan. It's not a country but it's a region within Turkey, Iraq & Iran. The Kurds are the biggest ethnic group in the world without a country. They number about 40 to 50 million. So, unlike Macedonians, there actually exists a Kurdish ethnicity. Real Macedonians are just Greeks.
Merhaba and peace between our people
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Posted: 2005-09-20 01:24:24
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laugable coments,especially kurds..They number about 40 to 50 million...are u crazy...
%7,5 of Turkey s an ethnic identity (kurds,laz,çerkez,...etc) Turkey's population (just in Turkey) 72,5 ml., in the world Turks are over 160 millions...you must refresh ur infos.
Iran: Azeri Turks: 23 ml
Syria: Turkmen Turks: 1,5 ml
Bulgaria: Volga Turks: 2,1 ml
Germany: Turkey Turks:3,1 ml
other??? look at others...Turkmenistan,Azerbaijan,Uzbekistan,Tajikistan,Tataristan,Someparts of China, some parts of India, some parts of Afghanistan,Kazakistan...u need more...
I think u must stop ur numbers. Coz we are very good in numbers.
If you wanna type about Kurds, why dont u type about Albanians in ur homeland...are they over 1 ml? yeah...%10-12 of Greece pop's ethnics...so what do u need to more?
If you wanna be friend of me with honest, I can be, if u want to attidute to me badly, I can be a real enemy of u. Lets forget all,and be good.
Have a nice day
regards
CDTRF
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Posted: 2005-09-20 14:04:27
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HAHA does it really make a difference if Kurds number 50 million or 20 million? The point is that they are an ancient people and have never had a country.
Maybe it is an overeggaration with 50 million Kurds but I meant the total population of Kurds, not just the ones in Turkey. Turkey has at least 20 million Kurds, any source will tell you that, but if you've been educated in Turkey they will probably tell you that there's only a few million lol.
Any umm why are you bringing out the total populations of Turks & Turkick people? No offence but I don't care how many Turkic people there are worldwide! There are 10 million Greeks in Greece and another 10 million outside of Greece. Do you care? of course not!
Albanians in Greece number about 700,000 and most of them are illegal. So what's your point? At least they have their own country unlike the Kurds.. Also Greece has a Turkish moniority in Thrace which have Mosques, Turkish schools etc etc all paid for by the Greek government. How does the Turkish government treat the Greek minority? Don't answer that, I already know..
Clearday I started talking friendly with you but you're the one with the attitude. Funny how in your last post you never mentioned that you started the flag posting and talked only about Kurds. So you can be my "enemy"(lol) or friend and if you wanna debate about politics or anything then you're welcome too. Just show respect to me and you'll get the same.
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Posted: 2005-09-21 10:33:20
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what I say...and what I have found. it s really irrelevant. What you mean while saying respect me? then wait for my respect. These points go no where. So the film "end"...greek minority here?
I have got a few Greek friends here. And they never say something that u say.What you know must have taken from bias sources-anti-turk sites,sources. Thats obvious.So should I take u serious...%20 of Turkey s Kurds...really laugable...especially when u say "u dont know, we know ur pop,and ur ethnic group pop"...really weird.
regards,
CDTRF
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Posted: 2005-09-21 16:01:44
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds#In_Turkey
In Turkey
The Kurds are a large and distinct ethnic minority in the Middle East, numbering some 25-30 million people. The area that they have inhabited--referred to on maps for centuries as "Kurdistan"--spans modern day Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. Half of the Kurds reside in Turkey, where they comprise over 20 percent of the Turkish population.
Modern Turkey's founder, Mustafa Kemal (better known as Atatürk--"father of the Turks"), enacted a constitution 70 years ago which denied the existence of distinct cultural sub-groups in Turkey. As a result, any expression by the Kurds (as well as other minorities in Turkey) of unique ethnic identity has been harshly repressed. For example, until 1991, the use of the Kurdish language--although widespread--was illegal. To this day, any talk that hints of Kurdish nationalism is deemed separatism, and grounds for imprisonment.
Taken from
www.wikipedia.org - A free online encyclopedia. Not anti-Turk source.
My apologies for the wrong figures regarding Kurds but I was going at the top of my head.
But there are 13 million Kurds in Turkey and it IS 20% who are Kurds. Why do you say it's laughable? And from what my Turkish friends have told me, the Kurds have large families so the Kurdish population in Turkey wil only rise.
[ This Message was edited by: Redback on 2005-09-22 00:40 ]
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Posted: 2005-09-22 01:32:56
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So I m right. Ranging anywhere from 25 to 27 million people, the Kurds comprise the world's largest stateless ethnic group. What I have said is correct here.But you said "50" millions. dont?
On the region -Turkey/Syria/Iran/Iraq...they are 25-30 million. And in Turkey they are 6-7 miilions of 75 millions country. Thats the point that I wanna say...they are less then %10...and I havent seen any Turks region in the Iraw land. But we have 1,5 millions Turks in Iraq, and over 20 millions in Iran.
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Posted: 2005-09-22 11:52:10
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what I have said is true and correct. 25-30 millios in the middle east. And they are 6-7 millions in Turkey.
Thats very interesting to see a Greek guy to talk our ethnic groups. And it s very clear what you wanna say. It s impossible to fight with us. Everybody knows who we are or not...and another interesting thing, that I dont see any comment from you about our minetories in Iraq (1,5 millions Turks in Iraq,20 millions Turks in Iran,300-400 thousand in Greece,2 millions in Bulgaria...), this s not suprise for me.
regards,
CDTRF
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[ This Message was edited by: Clearday on 2005-09-22 10:58 ]
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Posted: 2005-09-22 11:58:26
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But there are 13 million Kurds in Turkey and it IS 20% who are Kurds...
lets look at numbers: We are 72,5 millions(est.75 ml), and you are 10,5 millions...
if u are right (very probably not), 72,5 * %10=12,5 (have u suprised)
(with our and other countries official numbers, they are 7-8 millions,and less then %9)
so where is ur %20 ?
then turn you...
and you have 1,1 millions Albanians(not 700 u tricky boy), 300-400 thousand Turks(maybe more),totally with other minetories = 1,5 millions
10,5 * %14,2= 1,5 (have u suprised, I dont)
now, continue your campaign to find some different numbers and contribute to our friendship while using falsified numbers.
regards,
CDTRF
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Posted: 2005-09-22 12:07:45
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EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS IN BASKETBALL 2005 - HELLAS
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