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cant find date of announcement
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Posted: 2007-05-26 11:49:56
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aha.Well we knew for the previous announcement officially,so this is a little bit strange,isn't it?
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Posted: 2007-05-26 11:53:26
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Gotta say. If some of you (those of you begging for an SE N95 equivalent) were running a mobile phone company, you'd be bankrupt. No doubt about it. Producing ultra technology packed phones may be good for Japan, but in the rest of the world it's called stupidity. My 2 cents.

@KingBooker5
Don't be so down about Sofia. It exists, but the mobile market has changed since the end of last year, and Sofia has been revised to accommodate.

@BILLOO
The Sofia was just dismantled. It's not like the P990's flip.

@all
About my certainty regarding some info like the BRAVIA screens; I didn't mean to make it sounds as though Sofia and Shinobu will have BRAVIA screens. I admit my wording was wrong (will is a little strong) - but the whole point of the first thread is to save people having to read through many, many pages of rumours. But I do still filter the information to separate the totally out-there rumours from the stuff that sounds plausible.

Same goes for the announcement dates, and the phones to be announced. Take everything with a pinch of salt!

And I'm a little surprised that you have only just seen the Sofia for the first time. We've had it for quite a while. On the first post

If you look closely there are few things to note:
• The interface looks very UIQ-like. Not the current generation, but possibly the next...
• The interface doesn't look similar to the one found on the Z750 (softkey labels-wise). They read 'Select' 'Play' 'Back' I believe.
• A lot more blue photo lights.

And if 'in theory' that phone is UIQ, then Sofia is a different phone, because if we use what thecoolsha says, Sofia is not a UIQ phone.



Disappointing news. But fingers crossed for some other phones. Wonder if it means Maria is cancelled...

And please. Can you guys please post in English unless you plan on translating it? Otherwise we might be sent to the regional forums

UPDATE:

Lizy pictures added.
Lizy may not be cancelled anymore.
Sofia may use a white AF assist lamp so that it can double as a light for recording.
Sofia 'official' picture added. Placed under 5 megapixel Cyber-shot.
Sofia is a little larger than predicted (probably to accommodate the larger screen), and will be 2mm wider than originally thought. That makes it 102x48x17mm.
The W52S has been announced.
T125
Low end candybar. 128x160 screen.
P3i
Possibly the P990 successor with a flip.

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Posted: 2007-05-26 11:59:43
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"If some of you (those of you begging for an SE N95 equivalent) were running a mobile phone company, you'd be bankrupt. "

Shaliron: Does this mean Nokia will go bankrupt, like, soon? If yes, could you specify the date maybe?

Sorry, sarcasm off.

Seriously though, I don't think it's necessary to talk down on those of us who miss the innovation and technology leadership SE used to be known for.

SE wants to become #3 or better in the global phone market and the only way they can accomplish this is if they can offer better products than the competition at similar or lower price points and can match, within a reasonable timeframe (say, 1 quarter), anything the market leader comes up with.

I believe Sofia has been pushed back by at least 6 months from what they have originally planned and, while I'm sure they had their reasons, the phone is seriously late. Yet I for one can live with this.

My biggest concern is this:

1, Most of the products we have seen this year are simply re-packaged, some millimeters thinner, or alternative design-versions of existing models. There is no major advancement in screen or camera technology. No 16 million colors (yet), no 16:9 (yet), no or few 2+ inch candybar/slider, no 5 megapixel (yet), no optical zoom (if ever). Sofia *might* have some of these. Might.

2, While this is very subjective, most of the people around here tend to agree that design wise - if those pictures are valid - Sofia is a bloody train wreck. The W880, W580, K810, z610, z750, s500 and even the ultra boring T650i are all very elegant, superbly designed phones. Even the P1 and P3 (spypics) looks OK, tough i do not like QWERTY phones.

What the hell were they smoking designing Sofia?!
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Posted: 2007-05-26 12:59:45
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I think Se waits to counter in the right moment. All phones from Se that came later than from other companies were better. For example the camera of K800i is much better than from a Nokia. Think back to the times when Sharp was everytime the first who brought new camera phones like gx10.
So i think Sofia will beat the pants off Nokia, Samsug and LG
cheers

[ This Message was edited by: beta-tester on 2007-05-26 12:35 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-26 13:34:33
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@beta-tester...
I just hope so...

I think maybe
1- has changed Sofia to be a UIQ phone...
2- made Sofia, then changed it, that UIQ 5mp one is still another one.
3- the one we saw as Sofia, is not sofia, it's just the 5mp UIQ phone...
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Posted: 2007-05-26 13:51:33
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@shaliron - I take my words back.

latest news i got, is that it will be UIQ. But it should be a new version - possibly 3.1 or even higher (please note, that anything can change, however it should be pretty certain).

also this navigation system and keypad layout is quite interesting and should work pretty well in practice.

EDIT: looks like listened when u said you wanted a smartphone candybar from huh?

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[ This Message was edited by: thecoolsha on 2007-05-26 13:13 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-26 14:12:21
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Interesting. Any more news about the AF lamp to double up for use in recording videos?
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Posted: 2007-05-26 14:27:40
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well this is v.goood indeed guys !!

thats why I'm seeing is taking too much for Sofia after looking the prices of it's father and grandfather

but I wonder what will do to cover the price hole between K810/K800/K750 price range and Sofia...

that's if Sofia is really really K800/K810 successor !!, who knows it may be a new high end range !!
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Posted: 2007-05-26 14:32:48
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playdead on M-R said
Want to add that so long awaited UIQ non-TS phone will appear soon, having 3,2 mp camera, qvga screen

and i think will use uiq 3.2 not 3.1
from P1 review
(For instance, in the middle of 2007, SIP is getting to be the standard component for Java in JP-8 for A100 platform, the Sony Ericsson Z750 is the first example of that. At the same time, this technology may materialize in UIQ only starting from version 3.2 (in the same scope an implementation fashion).
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[ This Message was edited by: cristiano on 2007-05-26 14:21 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-26 15:17:47
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