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On 2008-04-16 04:04:13, kjao wrote:
6 G-series phones in 2008???
my little rant about SE's rate of releasing new phones is that they always (ALWAYS) tend to desert improving the bugs of phones already released JUST BECAUSE there is a better model about to be released. if the G700/900 is released with heaps of bugs...SE will hear the complaints of the end users and perhaps implement it in the next-to-be released G-series, conveniently ignoring those stuck with a faulty phone, making us convenient beta testers.
the best SE phone i've used is the k750...not because SE did a great job, but the hackers did a BEAUTIFUL job of improving camera drivers, etc of the phone. but now that SE wants to "tighten" on security. all phones feel pretty rough after a week or so of usage.
Dont jump into conclusion yet mate.
A few peopke had tested g series stated that The ui is very stable and behave diffrently with p990 (still prototype though).
I have positive feeling that
had found the source of bug and sort it out
Well if you feel pessimistic with G series just wait for another month (when g series hit the market) and see what are the opinion of G series user.
Before that, its not good for us to make a bad speculation righty?
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Posted: 2008-04-16 06:45:00
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On 2008-04-16 01:49:37, Nipsen wrote:
On 2008-04-16 00:53:36, max_wedge wrote:
(Mind you I have no such problems with my non-smartphone K800 which I use for numerous smartphone-like purposes every day, but that's another story).
Hah.
With j2me apps now maturing there are many things that 2 years ago were smartphone territory only that I can now do on my K800 with ease. Paired with J2me multi-tasking and 3G conneciton, I actually don't miss a smartphone as much as I thought I would. I have a HP WM for those occasions where the K800 just can't cut the mustard.
I miss touchscreen, but hey the biggest smartphone segment, Nokia s60, is no better in that regard.
But I assure you - if nothing's fixed on the g- series function- wise compared to the p1, it's going to be problematic. It may not hang all the time, like the n95 - but you're missing things that everyone used to an ordinary phone will notice. Also, some screens are intelligible for people who don't know what the settings do already.
And frankly, it's everywhere on the firmware - selections disappearing, lists invalidated at random - the sort on the contacts lagging the phone like mad, the shortcut- call disappearing after a sync, even if you don't change the contacts. The stupid inability to move more than one mail at a time, or the impossible solution with requiring you to download a mail before being allowed to move it to oh, say, the SPAM folder? Neat one, eh? I mean, how is it possible they couldn't schedule these functions, and then check for existence of such and such message before completing the request - I've programmed something like that in java, and it's not fricking magic. It's straight forward, standard, standard stuff.
So I don't think SE is going to move in on the business- market for real until these things are fixed. You may hope that it's "improved" and that the g- series hooks a couple of new customers. Which I'm sure it will. But the fact remains that it's not on par with the earlier jp- phones in several areas - notably on the message- facility. And whatever you say - people are going to notice that. (And even go back to their k850 for everyday use, hm? While waiting for the "next firmware".. lol)
I think you are right, but I also don't see G series as a business phone. I see it more as a competitor for Nokia N8x series (though HSDPA is a BIG shortcoming - hopefully the next 4 g series announcement will inlcude this)
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Posted: 2008-04-16 08:51:20
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Taking a look at the User Guide of the G700 Maximys linked on
SEMCblog, they used a new menu icon with 9 instead of 4 dots:
Also, this FCC pic strongly reminds me of the K700 cover.
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Posted: 2008-04-17 12:16:03
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can any of the lucky ones who have tested these phones tell me if they have included a "touchscreen lock" during active calls? thanks.
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Posted: 2008-04-17 12:22:38
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dont know.
but i did notice a touchscreen lock (free program) on my-symbian tooday
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Posted: 2008-04-17 17:56:31
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G900's review by Mobile Review now available in English:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-g900-en.shtml
A quite positive review overall, and interestingly Eldar also mentions up to 6 extra G series handsets this year !
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Posted: 2008-04-18 12:33:27
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Yeah but the camera is probably the worst 5MP cam ever in all 5mp phones that have come to the market.
G900 is just a rehash of the P1 with a slightly jigged menu interface, nothing new at all except a few different layouts in meny here and there.
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-04-18 22:47 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-18 23:46:09
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The G900 is nothing like the P1i, it's RUMOURED to have the same CPU platform and maybe the same WiFi chip and bluetooth chip, but it has difference chassis, mainboard, camera which is way better, it has a D button, a smaller and better screen, a VASTLY improved interface that has an almost totally different layout and screens and the camera interface has been completely reworked.
So it may run the same software underneath but IMO it's now perfected and works properly with proper finger friendly input. Looking at videos it also appears to run faster then the P1i can. I have no doubt the camera will be better then the P1i's, I am in now way what so ever expecting it to match the K850 cause it's not a camera phone. But having face detection and touch screen focus point is pretty cool.
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Posted: 2008-04-19 03:14:03
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the camera can be even better than the K850i (with proper software tweaks)
those M-R samples makes me think of a dirty lens or a faulty camera!!!
i have seen much better G900 camera samples at
www.Gsmarena.com
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Posted: 2008-04-19 09:53:44
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Was i reading the speed test graphs correctly? Coz it looked to me like the P1i beat the G900 on everything.
I thought the photos were awful but put it down to prototype phones.
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Posted: 2008-04-19 11:50:17
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