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opsss.... matanglawin, excuse me- you should take note that you should first use FMJ loads to break-in your gun, fifty rounds may be good enough. tho' most of the more experienced gun owners would even suggest you use FMJ for the rest of the gun's existence. i know that budgetary constraint is the root of this pro-and-cons issue of using FMJ vs reloads.
but to make your decision easier.... didn't your gun came along with the sticker that says.... use Full Metal Jacket ammo only....?
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Posted: 2006-11-15 18:12:22
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matanglawin,
you mentioned FEG....? the hungarian version of the Browning Hi-Power? hmmm interesting. i think everyone from the group would want to see and try that one too.
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Posted: 2006-11-15 18:21:43
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On 2006-11-15 18:12:22, boysaint wrote:
didn't your gun came along with the sticker that says.... use Full Metal Jacket ammo only....?
It says...USE FACTORY LOADED AMMO ONLY!
So...will factory reloaded ammos from armscor do? (Hahaha -- halatang nagtitipid!)
I really wanted to use FMJs only when I went to this far flung range in Bulacan last Sunday. Unfortunately, they only sell reloads there. Since I only had 50 FMJ rounds with me (allowed as per PTC) at that time, I took the risk, bought and used reloads the rest of the shoot.
I'll drop by the armscor range in Marikina one of these days. I heard that they sell 9mm ammos at a much cheaper cost there. The ones that I've previously bought at gun shops in the different malls cost P21-P22/pc.
[ This Message was edited by: matanglawin on 2006-11-16 03:57 ]
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Posted: 2006-11-16 00:56:16
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"nagtitipid" is a very understandable aspect of this hobby. no one blames anyone when it comes to that issue. safety/self defense is the main motive. and your choice of firearm is absolutely perfect for you.
now when it comes to ammo... this is the thing that has the ignition, the projectile to fly, the piece of material that accomplishes the unit's objective of existence. hence.... we should have care in selecting that ammo.
i can't recall right away if you have polygonal or grooved barrel, but whatever it is... the soft lead reload will be the main culprit of anything that will start degrading your gun. the soft lead (silver-like color of slug) is usually used on the reload, for the "nagtitipid". and these soft point slugs usually melts as it passes the barrel, leaving pieces there, building up gradually at every shot. and then clogs the grooves. that will cause to build up pressure inside your chamber. and more of that will have catastrophical consquences. have you heard of the word "KB" in gun circles?
and specially with your gun break-in... using alternates of lead, then FMJ (bronze-colored slugs) and back... i'm afraid the harder material of FMJ will simply push the lead deeper into the gun grooves, making it harder to clean, if left unchecked for long. ask anyone here in this thread, they know a good way to clean barrels. ask Aztec, i know he's a stickler for cleaning barrels. and DocTabako, i'm sure, has something to say about this.
just keep those barrels shiny, you'll be fine.
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Posted: 2006-11-16 07:32:16
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That is indeed very informative boysaint.
So none of the gentlemen (and lady -- hi lara croft!) here use reloads?
Anyhow, I would appreciate it if anyone of the gun gurus here could post the HOW TOs in gun maintenance.
Maybe we can start with cleaning the barrel. (Hint: Pictures would really help.)
When I got my gun from the dealer, I asked them what I need to buy for cleaning and lubricating my PT24/7 Pro. I was told that WD40 and any fully synthetic motor oil will do. Being the newbie that I am...that was what I purchased to clean and lubricate the gun after firing it for the first time last Sunday.
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Posted: 2006-11-16 12:41:27
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Lead reloads are perfectly okay to use in conventionally rifled barrels as long as your reloader knows what he's doing. It is used all the time in practice and competitions as it is much more economical if you shoot by the hundreds each session. What you should be worried about with reloads is the condition of the shells used by your reloader. Tired, "buntis" shells are a major cause of FTF, FTE and jams in general and the occassional KB(or KaBoom) which can also caused by overcharging of the gun powder. If you have a polygonal barrel, lead reloads should be used with caution, hard cast lead is okay but most reloads here use very soft lead and the polygonal barrel shaves a little off every bullet fired which leads to build up. To be sure, with polygonal barrels, clean every 50 shots to avoid the build up which could cause a KB later on due to increase in pressure.
Regarding cleaning, I use Hoppe's solvent(kerosene can also be used but I find it less effective) and a proper sized bronze brush, usually takes away the lead and copper deposits. For stubborn lead deposits, use hoppe's soaked in a patch and leave it in the barrel for an hour or so to soften it. For lubrication, I use break free CLP, although any of those synthetic motor oils like mobil1 will do fine. Happy shooting
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Posted: 2006-11-17 12:10:16
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Doc has explained it more precisely! thanks!
BTW, Doc ....more photos of the M16 shorty, and the FN-cal ....!
and yes- how is everyone doing this Christmas season?
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Posted: 2006-11-17 12:48:54
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hello to every one!
i decided my name from lara croft to polancer2006.
next time i will post my gun pictures. or maybe i'll ask boysaint to do it for me.
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Posted: 2006-11-19 13:03:10
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hey, g34 and boysaint i am inviting you to the gun show this week end.
pano tayo magkita? sunduin nyo ko o sunduin ko kayo??? saan tayo meet?
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Posted: 2006-11-19 13:11:26
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polancer - okey, we will be there. We might be able to find the needed parts for your 1911 project.
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Posted: 2006-11-20 00:29:18
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