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@ambyz: told u MTN was (is) the Evil Empire!! it needs to be brougt down!!!!
@all: No other takes on the space programme?? Demmy? If not then here's another. Now that it SEEMS that the 3rd issue is a thing of the past, who is most likely to be the PDP Pres candidate for 2007?
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Posted: 2006-05-17 16:47:42
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?On 2006-05-17 15:52:37, brix25 wrote:
?Damn, MTN GPRS must be powered by kerosene. Currently normal GPRS, on Vodacom is connecting at around 15kb/s...I don't even want to mention EDGE, 3G or the newly launched HSDPA.
??:lol: @brix, that's what the SA company is delivering to us over here.. We still waiting patiently for EDGE & 3G.. If Vodacom had entered the scene the last time, things coulda been better.
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Posted: 2006-05-17 17:20:00
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Mamba pls pm me about the MTN stuff
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Posted: 2006-05-17 18:25:09
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@Abu and All: It is true we labour under a government that is in many respects incompetent and injudicious with our money but a programme like that is important if only in its conception. I am sure serious money will not be allocated to it because it is our way and there are probably more important sceptics inside government than outside.
I don't know what their budget is but I am sure they will only get a fraction of what they ask for. However, the program will be in the books so that when the time is right and the people are ready will will go to the moon. I await your flames:)
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Posted: 2006-05-17 19:16:30
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@egunj: N1.87 billion has been APPROVED!!!!!! God knows what was initially requested for! Pipedreams like this shouldn't be entertained at all. If this amount was put into the railways since 1999 we would be travelling with ease and goods would be cheaper nationwide.
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Posted: 2006-05-17 20:12:09
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@Abu: Yes, unfortunately I am having to play devil's advocate but N1.87B is about $10M, not a lot of money for the purpose. There is no debate about there are competing uses for the money. What I want to see it value for money in this pursuit.
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Posted: 2006-05-18 11:31:44
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@egunj: last I knew, space tourism used to cost $20 million just to go to the international space station (or was it the Mir station, I forget). What they plan to do with $10 million is beyond me. What I do know is this pursuit is akin to the tortoise weighed down with a ton of weights racing with the rabbit with a jetpack on its back. Which "wayo" will the tortoise pull off to win this one? Countries like Brazil didn’t look towards space until it had its basic utilities in check. Now they are a nuclear power, using mainly an 85/15 ethanol/petrol mix in their vehicles, totally unperturbed from fuel price swings (they get their ethanol from sugar cane at a cheaper cost than current petrol prices).
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Posted: 2006-05-18 15:50:47
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i have to do more research on this ethanol/petrol mix, can the mix be used in any vehicle or is it for specially made engines?
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Posted: 2006-05-18 17:19:00
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@egunj: by the way, I'm glad you playing devil's advocate. There isn't really a black and white in these type of matters. thas why I like to belt out issues here.
@mamba: lots of car companies already produce the cars. Ford has one called Flex (i.e. flexible). It can use different proportions of ethanol/petrol. Funny thing is they cost the same as normal cars, just as efficient and performs the same as normal cars. The engine is a deviant of a diesel engine. Actually, diesel engines were originally designed to run on vegetable oil. I think that’s enough of my science trivia for today!! But please read up and post anything else intriguing. I actually have another conspiracy theory on how the big oil company companies have sat on such emerging energy alternatives to make their $$$$!! In Brazil, the govt just made it a law that all stations must sell the mix and that was it. If our govt started producing ethanol (sugarcane is the cheapest means but it can also be done with maize and still be cheaper than current petrol prices) we could wean ourselves of our own oil. More to export. No importing petrol or other by products. When you see another 3rd world country getting its act together I just get choked inside!!! A friend of mine was telling me that small Zimbabwe produces 12,000 MW and uses 9,000 and sells the rest to neighbours. We are still trying to hit 4000 MW. SIGH!!!!
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Posted: 2006-05-18 22:10:50
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SIGH!!!
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Posted: 2006-05-18 23:57:35
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