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Sure max.. if this was a couple of years ago...
AMD has come along way with their chips, their 64 bit chips are no where near as hot as the athlon chips were. At least AMD's have never had to slow themselves down to make themselves cool though eh?
Price wise, I bought my 3k+ (or maybe its a 3200, I forget now to be honest) chip for I think it was @$238NZ 10 months ago or so... thats about 115USD, I guess around 90 pounds or so. Not really expensive. As you go up, like any cpu though you will pay for it.
The numbers don't mean too much, its marketing. Intel had high mhz ratings, AMD didn't. AMD however kept up par for par while having vastly "slower" chips.. So they rated them against what the comparitive intel would be.
In the end they're all out to get out buck
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Posted: 2005-10-28 02:41:09
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And at the end of the day, the 'my processor is faster than yours' malarky is pretty pointless. There's tons of other factors such as chipset, motherboard, memory, aditional hardware etc. that have an impact. And benchmarking scores are usually pretty meaningless because few of them truly simulate real world operation.
And anyway, the biggest influence on real world PC speed is the user. If the user fills the PC up with adware, spyware and tons of other crap, it's going to run like a bag of the proverbial no matter how good the hardware is!
It's horses for courses as far as processors go.
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Posted: 2005-10-28 09:48:24
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I have AMD A64 Venice (2.7ghz) on
DFI Ultra-D Mobo
Leadtek 6600GT
and my favorite...
Logitech Z-5300 speakers!
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Posted: 2005-10-28 10:14:43
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On 2005-10-28 09:48:24, Cycovision wrote:
And at the end of the day, the 'my processor is faster than yours' malarky is pretty pointless. There's tons of other factors such as chipset, motherboard, memory, aditional hardware etc. that have an impact. And benchmarking scores are usually pretty meaningless because few of them truly simulate real world operation.
And anyway, the biggest influence on real world PC speed is the user. If the user fills the PC up with adware, spyware and tons of other crap, it's going to run like a bag of the proverbial no matter how good the hardware is!
It's horses for courses as far as processors go.
I do agree, but due to the heat issue I still think Intel are more durable. However you are spot on about adware etc. Really it's a fine hair to split between processors and other factors are way more relevant.
However someone asked me if I am an intel man. I'm not per se, but I always tend to default to intel just because all factors considered they are more reliable. I also consider that most of my pc's run all day, in an office without air con. Intel chips are no more expensive than equivalent AMD processors. Intel motherboards are were they bite, but for example ASUS Pentium boards are just as cheap as ASUS AMD boards, so some of my machines run intel boards, some asus.
The reason an AMD "runs faster" is that it performs more calculations than an intel chip on the same clock cycle, so it actually runs "slower" but does more in the same time frame. Hence the extra heat. If you "overclocked" an intel chip it will run hotter but still reliably but intel discourage the practice.
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Posted: 2005-10-28 14:42:20
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AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4200+
ASUS A8N SLI
1024MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200) Memory
250GB Serial ATA
2x 128MB nVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE - SLI
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi
Creative Labs T6060 - 5.1 Surround Speakers
ASUS WiFi 54MBps IEEE 802.11g PCI Card
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Posted: 2005-10-28 15:29:25
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On 2005-10-27 14:20:44, trogdor the burninator wrote:
how do i get more memory for my beast?
do i just buy some and put it in myself?
thanks for the quick response guys....im sure with all your muscly hard drives and super ego charging graphics AMD hooblah you overlooked my pitiful P3 question
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Posted: 2005-10-28 15:55:59
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Sorry Trogdor
Yes, you can fit it yourself but you have to be carefull of static electricity. Always handle memory by the edges and try not to touch the chips or, more specifically, the soldered connections.
You'll be needing to buy PC100 memory at a guess for your machine, and I wouldn't get one larger than 256Mb because older motherboards only support a relatively (by today's terms) small ammount of memory.
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Posted: 2005-10-28 16:58:59
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hehe, yeah sorry trogdor.
When you put the mem in, make sure you can see the memory slot's clearly. There is a polarity so make sure they are inserted the right way (the pins of the memory are in three sections, make sure these sections match up to the slot). There are clips on each end of the memory slot, make sure these are pushed back out of the way. Pop the stick into the slot and make sure you push down on both ends at the same time, slowly but with pressure. You will have to push reasonable hard (you may even flex the motherboard, this is normal), but you will know when it is in properly because the clips will lock forward and lock the memory in place.
Check out your mobo manual, they usually have a section on memory and sometimes even an install guide.
And good luck
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Posted: 2005-10-28 17:17:00
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a rele crap one.. too shamefull to list
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Posted: 2005-10-28 17:23:06
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hey if it works it's a trooper.
I gave my my step mother a P75 compaq lappie circa 1995. 40MB memory. It runs IE6, Outlook Express 6, Office 2000, AVG antivirus, and that's all. But she uses it for typing (she's a student), spreadsheets and accessing the network to print and browse the internet, send email etc. That's all she needs. The speed is adequate and quite useable.
Nothing to be ashamed of if it does the job it needs to
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Posted: 2005-10-30 02:35:37
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