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What I really fail to understand is all the fuss about what kind of WiFi the P990 has! The B standard is rated at around 11 Mbps, as opposed to 54Mbps for G, right?
How fast is your WiFi internet connection, anyhow? 500 Kbps, 1 Mbps, 2 Mbps???
The G standard really is of no real use unless you're using it for transfer of files, lots and lots of big files. I just don't see that happening with a mobile phone!
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Posted: 2005-12-13 17:57:04
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By the comment you have made I can see you have never experimented with wireless networks.Let me help you a bit to understand a few things. A wired network is pretty reliable concerning data transmission speed. A USB1 cable connection rated at max 11mbps may give you day in day out 8-10mbps real data speed (overheads counted in) a wireless connection is a hit/miss connection.The computer constantly try to send data at max possible speed but because of lost packets has to resend them constantly while increasing or decreasing the data rate.Therefore the tech community has decidet to only name the maximum possible data rate (minimum can be zero).Under 'normal' circumstances on a 'b' wifi connection you will get around 3-5 mbps most of the time with 1mbps and even less on occasion.The 'g' wifi is good for 12-16mbps dropping to 8 and less on occasion. The 'g+power boost' almost doubles the 'g' rate.I hope this helps. I use all 3modes of wifi for over 1y now.Funny bluetooth is more reliable
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Posted: 2005-12-13 21:04:56
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Thanks, Mario, but I do know quite enough about wireless networks. Which is exactly why I only mentioned "theoretical" numbers, as people seem to go by them all the time, regardless of what they actually get in reality.
Still, with your point taken at face value, does not this equally apply to other wireless connections? I know that I'm lucky if I get 60/70% from my 1Mbps service. I also know from experience that the bottleneck in these instances - internet over WiFi - is almost always the connection to the service provider, not the WiFi modem/router.
Cheers.
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Posted: 2005-12-14 06:51:05
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I agree with you regarding a medium speed internet connection (ADSL or slower) but if you have a hi speed connection it will certainly pose a problem. On the other hand this is the 'lesser devil' your real problem will actually be if you make the P990 part of your wifi lan network. You will see what I mean. Let's say for argument's sake you have 2xpc, 1xlaptop, 1xrouter and 1xp990 all on the same wireless network ( logged on using same identifier and 'online') lets say that all the devices are 'g' compatible apart of your P990. Now try accessing files from your laptop on one of the pc and check your speed.Disable the slow device and try again.Surprised ? Now I have the exact configuration as above - the P990.When I enforce one of the other devices to use the slower 'b' standard then the whole network will suffer ! The 'online' devices are constantly 'talking' to each other and adjust the speed to suit everyone.The slowest one will make everything slower ! ! !
This message was posted from a Nokia 7650
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Posted: 2005-12-20 16:17:11
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Hi again, Mario. Been away for a few days; sorry about that.
Quote: The slowest one will make everything slower.
Yes, I see what you're getting at. But, really, how do you envision the actual usage of a mobile phone, P990, in a WiFi world? Not as a file server or for transferring gigs of data, day in day out, do you? Not even as a "permanent" part of a dedicated network!
I mean, I see myself simply using it, on occasion, at a Starbuck's to check email, do some browsing, ar even checking these posts. That's exactly what colleagues are doing on N9500's; Wifi is off most of the time.
Again, you're absolutely right that a G wifi might have been better , but we really don't know how that would have affected battery performance, range, or even cost. Maybe the rumoured P1000 will be the have all/end all device. We'll just have to wait and see what actually takes place in a few weeks.
As for me, I see the P990, if its software is as refined as I expect it to be, to be the next mobile to replace my trusted P900.
Cheers
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Posted: 2005-12-22 20:36:33
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Ok buddy, you've got a point there. You see I will like the cell to connect to the network as soon as it comes into range and update the briefcase, contacts, any vid. or pics. taken etc. I am used to this very convenient feature from the cell I am have now (althou it only does that to the contacts on my home bluetooth network - range enhanced thru aerial change) on my next cell (N80) another issue arises. Because one can use a s60 cell as a Skype terminal I intend calling while home or at work from my cell, wifi network, skype, whole world. Also I want to receive phone calls, so it will be on the network as soon as it is within range! Yes the batt. will suffer somewhat but on the N-SERIES one can use a battery ment for another nokia cell which virtually doubles (almost) my 'on' time. Also judging by a 9500 the wifi isn't that big of a batt. killer althou it does eat it somewhat even on standby. Hey and thanks for 'chatting/replying' without shooting me down because I use a Nokia.(for now)
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Posted: 2005-12-24 06:31:09
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Mario, I can't believe we're still debating the issue!
Your points well taken, connecting a B device to a G network will definitely slow things down to the lowest common speed of transfer. Yes, you are right here.
But, going back to my main point, what exactly are you all doing in this network? Are you all surfing and browsing to your hearts' content? If so, then there doesn't seem to be any cause for worry, as I'm sure (most likely?) any internet connection you all may be on is still not as fast as a B Wifi, rated @ 11mbps, real life closer to 2-3mbps.
If there is constant traffic of moving large files, tiffs, huge raw pics, something in the 100's of mb's, then you may have what you may call a bottleneck of some sort.
As for not shooting you down for using a Nokia, or being somewhat critical of SE, with or without reason, I have a sense you're someone who enjoys using and nitpicking on these devices. I do that too at times, and it's why I tend to be critical of the little things more than I should. Besides I have, at my household, a few Nokia's, too. Who doesn't?
Have a good new year.
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Posted: 2005-12-27 10:49:19
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