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On 2007-03-29 11:52:09, goldenface wrote:
Here's some more blah for you.
You're saying they have the right to 'investigate' them. Of course they have.
Forcing the poor girl to admit under duress, on national TV, that she was trespassing when she wasn't. Parading her when she is obviously terrified out of her wits...
Great stuff!
Goldenface, what went through your mind when Blair, on behalf of all Britons, offered the 'blood sacrifice' for Bush's war on terror (also known as 'wot?'). Did you think he was just joking? Those 15 have been in custody for a few days... More than 15 british soldiers were killed by friendly us-fire, dead for all days! Your blind rage is exactly what the Bl-ushes of this world want! They don't care about 15.000 dead, but 15 arrested and you echoing their crazed war-cries: just great! You are not even trying to be part of a solution - all kneejerk and hipocracy. A pity
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Posted: 2007-03-29 12:46:32
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Since when have I ever said Blair and Bush are innocent?
If Iranian captives were paraded on British TV, and forced to speak under duress then I'd be calling the people who made them do it scumbags too.
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Posted: 2007-03-29 12:55:58
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yeah, well... what gets me is the constant insinuation that axxr or you or myself, or..., get some kind of heartless kick out of dealing with those lies. As if it was somehow funny to realise that history proves absolutely that we cannot trust or rely on 99 percent of what gets "reported"! if those paid reporters did their jobs without fear for their jobs, without cowardice... we wouldn't even have to have this heated debate - there wouldn't be a war; Blair would be out of a job; Bush would be in Guantanamo or Betty Ford... It's the same with 9/11: you question the official Version, and immediately you get attacked for not caring about the 3000+ dead!!! It's such a twisted double-think mindset!!! and, oh yeah: blahblah... And yeah @oneofthose, were was the big outrage when Blair offered to blood-sacrifice the british youth for Bush and Haliburton? And how could it be in any way doubted that he meant exactly that:"blood-sacrifice"??? And indeed: blahblah
And excisely: goldenface doesn't strike me as someone extremely "rabid" - yet the bigot-media can get him to froth, wipe away the suffering of thousands as "blahblah" instead of wiping away the froth to get a clear view!!! You saw xugaaa's posts... all excited and outraged... and then he posts "they've been released" - including a big smirk... without even double-checking first... what a level of heatedness, what commitment to the truth, what a smirk... But: "blahblah"!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: maggflodd on 2007-03-29 12:38 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-29 13:18:21
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I don't, for one minute, believe everything that is spoon-fed to me by the media and I firmly believe everyone has a right to ask questions and investigate - axxxr does a very good job of that
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I've had many a run-in with people over whether Iran should have nukes or not or whether we have the right to stop nuclear proliferation, I've locked horns with axxxr in the 9/11 thread and I enjoy it; I almost like arguing just for the sake of it.
However, parading that girl on TV isn't a good thing, no matter what the situation is and I defy anyone to say that it is; I shouldn't have to have a discussion on Iran's relationship with the West or Blair-Bush Middle-East policy in order to call them scumbags.
People are implying that I shouldn't speak out against the captive situation unless I also denounce every horror and atrocity of Blair and Bush in the same breath. Well they're wrong! If I want to say its wrong then I will.
They should let them go and thats it!
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Posted: 2007-03-29 13:45:12
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Oh, you "almost like arguing for the sake of it"?? Who would've guessed? That's fine - only one problem remains (though I sorta stopped caring a few posts ago...), by referring to them angrily/simplistically as "nice scumbags" you are either
a) de-humanising them to ensure it's o.k. to deal with them in any way "necessary" - it's easier than to think of them as soldiers following THEIR orders, defending THEIR culture, doing THEIR job... it's ok for brits to "do routine recon" because they're human - while iran/-aqis are just scum...
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b) actually...
it's all good...
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Posted: 2007-03-29 14:06:34
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Is that what you think?
When I referred to them as f*cking scumbags I was referring to the people who held them captive and paraded them, not the Iranian people. God, I would never do that!
I happen to think there is inherent good in most people. Its when people get in power that they do most evil.
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Posted: 2007-03-29 14:18:31
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On 2007-03-29 12:46:32, oneofthose wrote:
Goldenface, what went through your mind when Blair, on behalf of all Britons, offered the 'blood sacrifice' for Bush's war on terror (also known as 'wot?'). Did you think he was just joking? Those 15 have been in custody for a few days... More than 15 british soldiers were killed by friendly us-fire, dead for all days! Your blind rage is exactly what the Bl-ushes of this world want! They don't care about 15.000 dead, but 15 arrested and you echoing their crazed war-cries: just great! You are not even trying to be part of a solution - all kneejerk and hipocracy. A pity
