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@ Dragoneye..

nooo not the 8800.. me wants the 8230

wifi and a cam!



that's all my BB needs to be perfect!

fatreg
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Posted: 2007-04-05 23:10:49
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@DragonEye, that really wasn't the point of my post.

I was trying to give my initial experience in comparison to the points you had found but it also occurred while writing that, that its not just SE that have problems with initial release and though I haven't had a Nokia for years apart from a brief 8800 trial, I can see now that its not just SE that has these issues

my other fav, windows mobile. also have their problems at release which rely on firmware updates to sort them

the conclusion seems to be that we should choose our products based not only on features as they appear on paper, but how quickly issues are resolved after release and I feel that SE still have something to learn in that respect... but thats a whole other topic

for the N95. I am trying to work it hard and despite its initial few failings, its living up to its side of the bargain for the most part IMHO

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[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2007-04-05 22:20 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-05 23:16:04
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Hi Masseur,

I was interested on your findings of the GPS and will be interested to see if this improves although to be honest due to where the chip is located and the fact it is a Sirf11 chip i some how doubt it. This is why i have said i prefer a stand alone solution for GPS and just the Sat Nav software on my device.

I also think we all accept partly owing to the complexity of these new devices none seem be launched bug free to be honest i still find this hard to accept from any manufacturer as IMO it should not be released until ready.
Although recent history does go in Nokia's favor as to releasing new firmware and resolving issues quite quickly plus usually you get change log telling us what has been addressed.

Marc
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Posted: 2007-04-06 00:33:40
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well, I'm prepared to give this device a chance rather than dismiss it from the start... so lets see

I never depend on one device so for me this is as much an experiment as it is trialling alternative solutions as it is having a bit of fun
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Posted: 2007-04-06 00:44:20
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DragonEye

GPS can take 20 minutes to upload
I have been getting my signal lock in 2-5min. So I was a bit surprise about people only getting lock in 20min. Just a note I am using the "Asia Map" instead of the default "Map". Not sure whether this maybe the reason.

When setting up GPS you have to purchase the license and you can select to do this from the phone and pay via premium sms or credit card.

In asia, there is another map prog in addition to "Map". It is called "Asia Map". 2 maps are loaded in the phone and additional maps are available in a provided CD. When I first started this "Asia Map", it just send a normal sms to register the app. No prompting etc etc. So I think setup maybe different from region to region.

• GPS is slow compared to Tom Tom.

Have not used tom-tom. Speed is acceptable. Once you got a lock on GPS, the position is shown on map quite fast. Transitioning from map slice to another is quite fast. However, I have not travel long distance when many slices of map are loaded into memory.

Eg when using radio dj on fully charged battery it will last 45mins.

I used wifi for 1hr and I am still on full bar. I think it may be the battery meter not detecting battery properly. I had once the meter just fell from full to 3 bars in few minutes. When I restarted the phone, it was back at full. No sure this is due to new battery not conditioned properly.

There is an issue with stability on this phone and may crash few times a week this is is normal

I suspect this may be branding issue. My unbranded one has not crash once (i.e. you need to pull battery out) in the 6days I have it. The only time it self-rebooted is when I started the LifeBlog app for the very first time. And I have playing with the phone A LOT!!.

Hard wear design fault the stereo headset jack connector makes a hissing noise in your ear when music turned up

Didnt experience this. I am using my own headset. I'll try the Nokia headset to see whether it is headset problem. Any chance this is due to jack not securely inserted?

- The only bug I detected is the "multimedia" key stopped working after running certain app (not sure which one yet). I think this wont bother many people as the "multimedia" menu is show when slide the phone to player mode.

[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2007-04-06 01:40 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-06 02:32:30
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You know Mib, I find it a bit funny, most people who complain about the N95, never owned one in the first place! After reading N95 treads at: MR, PRODIG, SF (well known cell forums) - I come to the conclusion, the N95's launch went better then the WM5/6 (not to mention the - even today - buggy P990i). I only hope that Nokia will be able to supply the world market with this 'marvel' so that the price wil drop soon enough for me to get one
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Posted: 2007-04-06 11:14:57
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@mario

I think N95 generate a lot of envy among rival fans and this leads to some poison pen. I think it would be good that real owners of N95 speak up to dispel all the inaccuracies.

I reckon N95 would be a big hit given the problem-free launch. So far those who buy it for real have come out in praise of it. I think Nokia would boost production given the good initial feedback. And price will certainly fall. Even the launch price of 550euro (which is the price I bought) is very reasonable (unlike some other recent high end prices)


edit: I tried with Nokia headset and there is no hissing sound.

dogmann
every1 would agree that a dedicate gps is better just like a dedicate cam. But then you have to carry around all these devices. I think the gps on N95 is good enough for casual use.

You cannot expect an AIO device to excel in every area. If the AIO can match 70% capability of dedicated device, I think that is more than good enough.

[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2007-04-06 10:45 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-06 11:37:28
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@mib1800, did you not read the list of issues posted by DragonEye? I'd hardly call that a problem free launch

I've had mine 24 hours now and while, in general, I am pleased with the device, it is definitly in need of quite a few fixes.

another issue I found is that if I have set photos to be stored on the memory card, and the memory card fills up, then the camera app won't start! It doesn't give you an option to use internal memory at this point, it just doesn't start. so you must then delete something from the memory card so the camera can work again and then you can change to the internal memory if you want

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[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2007-04-06 10:45 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-06 11:43:36
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thats one thing i dont like about Nokias
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Posted: 2007-04-06 11:46:40
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thats a common problem then is it?
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Posted: 2007-04-06 11:48:35
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