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Ive had this phone for around a week now and i have not encountered a single issue with it. Also I think its the ebest phone ive had. The battery life is superb! I went out Friday night took loads of pocs and vids, made tonnes of calls, txtx and surfed a bit on Saturday and the battery was still at 37% on Sunday evening.
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Posted: 2007-09-03 22:28:40
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What makes people so sure that the iPhone is going to be absolutely perfect? It'll have a string of negatives just like any other product and Nokia & SE have been in this game way longer yet still make mistakes. The iPhone isn't even out yet and it's already old technology, what about that 2MP camera with NO autofocus?? I wouldn't buy it for that alone! Then there's the touchscreen typing. How nasty will that be for typing long texts and emails? Nah, I think the iPhone is a fashion phone. It'll have a nice web browser and be good for music but that's about it. My 30GB mp3 player will be BETTER for music though and that's why I never bother about mp3s on mobile phones. They just haven't got anywhere near the storage capacity yet.
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Posted: 2007-09-04 00:38:13
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yeah, i dont see the iphone as a business tool at all.

so no can do. for me as a Blackberry user I dont think anythings gonna be able to touch the P1 until the next P series incarnation.
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Posted: 2007-09-04 01:04:00
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Hi everyone. I just wanted to chime in here because I have both the P990i and the iPhone. A lot of you seem to be against the iPhone before you even try it. It has its pros and cons, just like any device.

Anyway, I just wanted to give a couple comparisons of general use that some people seem to be unsure about.

1. Text Input: The iPhone is actually faster in my opinion (for the most part). When typing messages, emails, etc., the iPhone beats the P990i hands down. The only part where the P990i is faster is when entering web addresses or names because sometimes the iPhone is inaccurate. It can't use prediction in these instances, so speed suffers.

2. Web Browsing: Again, the iPhone wins quite easily. The browser is one of the faster, better-functioning mobile browsers I've used. It isn't as feature-packed as the built-in Opera on the P990i, but it makes up for it in speed and ease of use. It is similar to Opera Mini 4 Beta, but just easier because navigation works better.

3. Business features: Okay, obviously the P990i wins in this department. It has third party programs available, Quick Office, more complete calendar and email, etc. But the iPhone was never meant to be a business phone.

4. Multimedia: This one is actually a toss up. The iPhone has a better screen, interface, and media player (oh, and YouTube). The P990i has a better camera, video recording (although unusable because it can't properly sync the audio), radio, MMS, and Stereo Bluetooth (i can't believe Apple left this out).

I could compare a lot more, but my intent was just to give a brief overview of some of the things people have brought up in this thread. If anyone has a specific question, feel free to ask! I hope this helps.

By the way -- I have come to believe the biggest difference is now between the manufacturers, not the phones. I used to love SE before the P990i disaster, but now I am very disappointed by their behavior. I still like my P990i and have never had any "major" issues with it, but SE just ditched its users without fixing all the problems. And then they released the P1i with some of the same bugs! That's pretty ridiculous. I will not be getting a P1i because it doesn't seem like enough of a difference from the P990i. I will just await the P3i or whatever the true P990i successor is. Hopefully SE will have cleaned up their act by then.
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Posted: 2007-09-04 02:58:20
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The SE is better at video recording? Blimey, the iPhone must be bad!
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Posted: 2007-09-04 03:18:53
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@ sunking101 -- The iPhone does not have video recording at all. Just still pictures. But the camera is pretty decent for fixed-focus.

[ This Message was edited by: chriswg85 on 2007-09-04 02:23 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-04 03:22:38
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as irrational and ridiculous as it sounds to you, guess what, it works. it makes money, keeps the shareholders happy, and keeps Nokia at the front.

cliché phones are sometimes used to brand, to prove to themselves that they can do something. This goes to Samsung's Ultra thin phones, which is just playing with numbers, slashing thickness 0.1mm by 0.1mm. The N95 that sold better than Nokia expected themselves, with that expansive pricetag and chiqué functions that most people won't use everyday, BUT still buy it.



and with wiki, you might have overestimated its role.
I've already spoken to the relevant people long ago, it's up to them to change. they'd probably type up the minutes, but I don't.

concerning the software stability issues that people are complaining here, some of them are device specific, got one sent back to the lab cuz the error is not reproduceable elsewhere. fine, you say that they are faulty units, but how many units do you have to exchange before you can get a non-faulty units?

if you look at the stats, the % of P1i "faulty units" is not low (like the N73), and a lot of these glitches are not patched. i can return mine anytime, but not everybody can do that. I got mine exchanged 3 times in 5 weeks, how's that?

after a year of M600i, have they improved the UI? re-organized the settings? improved the speed? solved the keypad problem? made single-handed usage easier? (a lot of touch screen devices have d-pad/ joystick) improved email support so that it crashes less? have they even attempted to make those icons on the screen more friendly to fingers? (on w960i yes, not on P1i, that's a bit too late isn't it?)

the problem is that the P1i doesn't do what it's supposed to do. Messaging is not easy thanks to the slow UI, unstable Email support, the below average keypad plus the lack of T9 choice if one uses to type single handedly with the 3x4 buttons in the middle. (imagine typing Q&A with your left hand)

build, music, browser and camera work well for me; but they can't make up for the Messaging and UI glitch.

just for your rference, the MB review was sent off to SE PR before publishing, and the representative actually said that MB was already being "easy on it"

[ This Message was edited by: xumdeo on 2007-09-04 11:37 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-04 03:45:57
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1. Text Input: The iPhone is actually faster in my opinion (for the most part). When typing messages, emails, etc., the iPhone beats the P990i hands down. The only part where the P990i is faster is when entering web addresses or names because sometimes the iPhone is inaccurate. It can't use prediction in these instances, so speed suffers.


---> how can it be faster than p990/p1i the se devices have stylus input/qwerty input the iphone has no kb!
anyone???
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Posted: 2007-09-04 09:25:48
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hay guys, i dont think the review to P1 is fare enough, i have tried the phone and tested everything i mean everything and it exceeded my expectations, it is a wonderful phone and kick the E90 in the butt.
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Posted: 2007-09-04 09:35:27
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The iphone does have some nice features but its the user interface that really is the big thing and im just going top get the new ipod which will feature that anyway. As for multimedia i think its a bit of a silly situation with the iphone. They have a specific appliaction for youtube but no method of recording video to upload to youtube. That just baffles me.

Also the iphone cant even play regular H263 encoded 3GP which is on every phone these days.

I got a p990 sold it and now have a p1 and am very pleased. It does everything I want to be honest and there arnt any complaints. Perhaps HSDPA would have been nice but im not that fussed about that.
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Posted: 2007-09-04 10:11:33
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