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Hmm - the problem is, the phone's we're tearing apart are branded and made by Sony Ericsson, not Ericsson, and that makes them as much Sony's responsibilty as anyone else. Ok, Ericsson put up all the technology to begin with, and that's the ageing technology that they're still using now, but what have Sony contributed outside of Japan?

Aside from that, the question was who is the best phone maker, and that can only be answered by looking at their respective performance before the joint venture. Ericsson phones were excellent, IMO, if not overly commercial - they pioneered technologies like Bluetooth, Symbian, colour screens, etc that we're all still using today. Sony phones were - outside of Japan at least - absolute crud. It was the combination of Ericsson phone technology and Sony marketing and CE expertise that was supposed to be the dream ticket for SE, but while that technology was certainly there at the beginning (with every SE handset being significantly more advanced than Sony's offerings previously), the joint company has failed to maintain that lead.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-07-24 15:09 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-24 16:07:24
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Actually what else i think is poor is. Why are other companies pushing ahead tech wise with things like full VGA recording on their phones and SE still seem to struggle with that when others have been doing it for ages. And another thing which still has not that much improved since the Ericsson days. Why are their phones still quite slow to use. I find alot of SE phones still suffer from the same slow chip that dogged the Ericsson phones of old. Surely innovation from Sony could have sorted that. Remembering the Sony J5 i had on Orange many years back was funny. It had ring tones that sounded like fairground rides. Lol
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Posted: 2008-07-24 16:12:00
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Ericsson were heavily involved during the early stages of this joint venture and the results were amazing. Then came Sony branding which brought about the dreaded segmentation which led to now. If you've ever used Ericsson you would know the quality and advanced technology that came with that name. The P800, T610, K700 to mention a few said Ericsson innovation. If Sony is so advanced now is the time to the fore cause they haven't done anything till this far bar the branding which offers little if any enhancements.
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Posted: 2008-07-24 16:32:15
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Yes, you all make Very good points - and I agree with them pretty much all the way.

But, It was Ericsson's own decision to take care of Sony Ericsson outside of Japan - The S700i was innovative, and I actually have the K700i, P910i and T610 back in London lol - great handsets - no doubt!

However, the S700i was SEMCJ....
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Posted: 2008-07-24 16:46:58
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Yes..
When we talk about quality the S700 was a quality phone.. one of the best, P800 was good quality too, last phone made in Sweden??
And Original T68m was from Ericsson too.. that phone was the first phone with color and in built aerial. but which nightmare when use it, I got it replace 5 times, most buggy phone they ever released.. ..

How ever SE will be bake end of this year... that's I'm sure. And C905 will sell. that's I'm very sure about it.. so give them a chance..
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Posted: 2008-07-24 16:55:19
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@Sony a- I have to agree with you that the S700 was an awesome phone. My gripe here is that SE as a company is a mess. The planning between Sony and Ericsson is non-existent, I'm aware that SE is a company on its own but there should be sufficient (not too much) input from the parent companies. Look at what should be on the table and what's actually there. With Ericsson and Sony technologies and expertise no one company should be standing in their way- yes, Nokia in particular- they should be ahead by a long shot. Actually they were till mid-2006 when it all evaporated. This is a partnership and Sony should get off its backside and get involved. It's time to bring all the Japanese technology and sync it properly with SE worldwide.
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Posted: 2008-07-24 17:14:57
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@EMS06

I think you have 'sealed the deal' so as to say there dude - there really should not be SEMC and SEMCJ as two different entities, it should be one 'power' to rule them all a la Lord of the Rings lol!

Agreed, what SHOULD be there - isnt right now - and thats a shame, with Ericsson LM, who are the leaders in Communications, and the Ericsson platform being used by more than just Sony Ericsson - along with Sony's own technologies (Maybe now my point of just WHY IN THE BLUE HELL Sony Ericsson are using Samsung parts, moreso their Camera modules [if what Eldar says is to be believed]).

Thats why I see Hideki San doing a good job at SEMC's helm - because he'll be more inclined to bring what SEMCJ's portfolio contains - to Europe - we are already seeing it happen in the C905...

As the 'Big Boss' at Sony Ericsson - it is now Hideki San who can reduce the gap between SEMC and SEMCJ.



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Posted: 2008-07-24 17:31:44
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I agree about the S700i it was my favourite ever SonyEricsson phone. Wish they would produce something that solid and great again but with even more advanced tech. What i also think is lately so much has been thrown into the Cybershot and Walkman branding that they have not concentrated on quality. Dont get me wrong not all their new phones are awful but i see nothing new in terms of design new technology or reliability. And the question has to be answered as to why when they have Sony Cybershot and Sony Walkman branding and someone like Nokia has made quite a few of their phones with better sound and better cameras. I dont say all of Nokias but quite a few. Its very strange. And you would think because SE does not whack out mobiles at the same pace as Nokia Samsung or LG you would think they would concentrate more on quality and quality control. K850i ahem.
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Posted: 2008-07-24 18:25:00
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I think the reason is that SE is scared.
Take a look at the last two real wonder devices they made, the S700 and W900. Superb pieces of technology for their time. Both were utter failures and brought lots of praise and almost no money for SE. So they are scared.
of making another such device.
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Posted: 2008-07-24 18:29:11
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QVGA, I wouldn`t call k750, w800 and k800 failures at all - all this phones were top-of-the-class at their time.
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Posted: 2008-07-24 18:32:24
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