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McKinley Posts: > 500

I am always hoping to read about the product itself when I get to this topic but the past dozens of posts have been posted by an aggravated fan.


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Posted: 2016-09-05 14:18:57
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hello1000 Posts: 149


On 2016-09-05 13:48:32, justus333 wrote:
@Hello,

I don't care about Samsung, I care about Sony. Hence I criticize Sony and not Samsung...but you´re like a rabid dog who barks at everything that comes near not finding your beloved Sony perfect....


You guys need learn to read my post.

In this topic i read many negative about XR like camera, screen,process,bezels, design and ram related and if I read Samsung topic almost nothing to complain about Samsung device only praise while you guys come Here complain about it.

And if I take those Message to adress, then im fanboy blah blah and blah, you guys are the fanboys, you why becouse you only complain without any sience to proof it.

I also adress that here at esato members who claim they fan of Sony and yet complain about it, if they are Sony fan then they know How Sony works.

And thats why I adress it,, and don't change the subject please.


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Posted: 2016-09-05 15:02:01
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moogoo Posts: > 500

here you go mckinley..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkHI5unm3d4

xz vs. galaxy 7 edge


also, in this video, you can see a brief moment where the reviewer adjusts the shutter speed. it looks like the max shutter speed IS indeed 1s and then it goes to auto. not sure if using a 3rd party camera app would allow you to do longer exposures, but 1s is kinda disappointing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjYi8amu0lc
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2016-09-05 16:29 ]

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Posted: 2016-09-05 17:23:10
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hello1000 Posts: 149


On 2016-09-05 17:23:10, moogoo wrote:
here you go mckinley..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkHI5unm3d4

xz vs. galaxy 7 edge


also, in this video, you can see a brief moment where the reviewer adjusts the shutter speed. it looks like the max shutter speed IS indeed 1s and then it goes to auto. not sure if using a 3rd party camera app would allow you to do longer exposures, but 1s is kinda disappointing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjYi8amu0lc
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2016-09-05 16:29 ]



Donation from Samsung, we know that.
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Posted: 2016-09-05 17:30:25
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doministry Posts: > 500


On 2016-09-05 17:23:10, moogoo wrote:
here you go mckinley..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkHI5unm3d4

xz vs. galaxy 7 edge


also, in this video, you can see a brief moment where the reviewer adjusts the shutter speed. it looks like the max shutter speed IS indeed 1s and then it goes to auto. not sure if using a 3rd party camera app would allow you to do longer exposures, but 1s is kinda disappointing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjYi8amu0lc
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2016-09-05 16:29 ]


We would love to have like 10s indeed.
HOWEVER having manual shutter speed and focus is great. I really wanted to control these in order to make some shots in difficult lighting and now it'll be possible.
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Posted: 2016-09-05 17:40:22
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moogoo Posts: > 500

i agree doministry.. just having it there is a HUGE positive. i'm just saying personally i would have liked more in the native camera app. now i will have to look to a 3rd party app if i want extra long exposures, if it is even possible to increase it.

@hello - you seriously need to relax. constructive criticism is what makes things better. if you're always told everything is great, then you can never improve. as someone else said, we criticize because we want improvements, we expect more from the Sony we know and love. i don't want any reply from you saying i don't understand what sony's doing blah blah blah. i do and i sit here waiting patiently to update my z1 to the another sony device because i simply am uninterested in anything else. but i am getting tired of your replies and if there was a mute feature on this forum i would use it. you add nothing constructive and you attack people who are clearly fans of sony. all i ask is that you take a moment before you reply and ask yourself if what you're about to say is constructive to the conversation. if not, then don't post. thank you.
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Posted: 2016-09-05 17:45:58
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hello1000 Posts: 149


On 2016-09-05 17:23:10, moogoo wrote:
here you go mckinley..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkHI5unm3d4

xz vs. galaxy 7 edge


also, in this video, you can see a brief moment where the reviewer adjusts the shutter speed. it looks like the max shutter speed IS indeed 1s and then it goes to auto. not sure if using a 3rd party camera app would allow you to do longer exposures, but 1s is kinda disappointing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjYi8amu0lc
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2016-09-05 16:29 ]



This is what I mention and why I adress it last time where you atack me, and you still don't get it.
This proof my point that you never be critics about SG7 oversharping and unnatural color reproduction and be one minded critic only at Sony.



Where are the oversharping and unnatural color reproduction by the one minded reviewer?
[ This Message was edited by: hello1000 on 2016-09-05 17:15 ]

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Posted: 2016-09-05 18:12:54
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moogoo Posts: > 500

great overview of the xz camera app.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0yWidiyKeY

confirmed 1s to 1/4000 second shutter speed.

i love the gesture in selfie mode to initiate shutter. great idea.
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Posted: 2016-09-06 06:40:36
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Ranjith Posts: > 500


On 2016-09-05 12:57:16, hello1000 wrote:

On 2016-09-05 12:41:36, Ranjith wrote:
@hello1000

What you need to realize is its not if you believe SONY is better..its what the masses think and we know whats the answer to that. Forget about Samsung & Apple..SONY is struggling against the relative new comers from China even.

You think Samsungs AMLOEDS suck compared to SONY's IPS? Well as you can see from the sales charts the majority thinks other wise. Same with the camera..simply because you dont like over saturated images doesn't mean the whole world does too. Most infact like it since they dont need to process the images at all.

SONY's dwindling sales is a proof that what they offer isnt what the people want irrespective of it being the better or not.



First to all, learn first who to read.
Second, I adress only that people only be critics towards Sony and NOT Samsung.

Third, use siense not a paid opinion from Samsung to promote his stuff.
Four, AM oled panels are 75% oled technologie AFAIK.
IP panels are more superieur becouse of natural color reproduction, batterylife, brightness and build quality.

I never said Sony is better learn first how to read.


"This proof my point that you never be critics about SG7 oversharping and unnatural color reproduction and be one minded critic only at Sony. "

"IP panels are more superieur becouse of natural color reproduction, batterylife, brightness and build quality. "

Those are your statements. Now go back and read what I wrote earlier. If you cant comprehend it..forget it then, its pointless explaining it out to you.
[ This Message was edited by: Ranjith on 2016-09-06 11:15 ]

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Posted: 2016-09-06 12:13:25
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hello1000 Posts: 149


On 2016-09-06 12:13:25, Ranjith wrote:

On 2016-09-05 12:57:16, hello1000 wrote:

On 2016-09-05 12:41:36, Ranjith wrote:
@hello1000

What you need to realize is its not if you believe SONY is better..its what the masses think and we know whats the answer to that. Forget about Samsung & Apple..SONY is struggling against the relative new comers from China even.

You think Samsungs AMLOEDS suck compared to SONY's IPS? Well as you can see from the sales charts the majority thinks other wise. Same with the camera..simply because you dont like over saturated images doesn't mean the whole world does too. Most infact like it since they dont need to process the images at all.

SONY's dwindling sales is a proof that what they offer isnt what the people want irrespective of it being the better or not.



First to all, learn first who to read.
Second, I adress only that people only be critics towards Sony and NOT Samsung.

Third, use siense not a paid opinion from Samsung to promote his stuff.
Four, AM oled panels are 75% oled technologie AFAIK.
IP panels are more superieur becouse of natural color reproduction, batterylife, brightness and build quality.

I never said Sony is better learn first how to read.


"This proof my point that you never be critics about SG7 oversharping and unnatural color reproduction and be one minded critic only at Sony. "

"IP panels are more superieur becouse of natural color reproduction, batterylife, brightness and build quality. "

Those are your statements. Now go back and read what I wrote earlier. If you cant comprehend it..forget it then, its pointless explaining it out to you.
[ This Message was edited by: Ranjith on 2016-09-06 11:15 ]



IP panels used by many makers, dont be a arse boy.
Second, IP PANELS are superieur over AM oled panels becouse brightness, color reproduction and lifespan and also battery consuption.

THOSE ARE FACTS!!!!!!
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Posted: 2016-09-06 13:04:15
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