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MominIslam Posts: 278

i, cant explain the pens, happens to me all the time,

the bbc is american funded and controlled by americans, i know about the design flaw,

the reason they told the world about this extensivley was to shut people up, (as soon as its broadcasted, they think because the tv is true that they beleive them completely) thats not the point,

the bbc site somewhere still mentions this if i can find it, but ask ya self would someone really create a building with one reinforced concrete(4 steel pipes through contrete) = 1 steel reinforced concrete, as its main foundation, there is was actually well over 6 or seven i heard, it was on numerous sites, the video i watched told you the site and had images of the construction almost finished, with the top of one of the towers clearly showing about 7-8 of them.

they said a boeing was able to go through the pentagons many steel reinforced concrete, it went through 3 sections of it,

if the towers had 1 like they say on the bbc, well why did nt the Boeing pierce through the builidin and come out of the other side and continue on,???????? does not add up.

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Posted: 2005-01-22 01:32:46
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ADT0079 Posts: 100

@Momin said -kilroy messed up, even him got brainwashed and said " Arabs as suicide bombers, limb amputators, women repressors"' . he heard about these scenarios on tv and this is what he adds up,

But at the same time it is true whether or not you are arab and im not saying all arabs in a whole are bad people there not but don't deny the fact that arabs are more known to these Methods than any other Race........

and me watching the T.V. For Free and you Reading a Website for free by some person you have never seen or met is pretty much the same thing...There's always going to be diffrent opinions so lets stop the back and forth your not Right nither am i because truly we both dont know the full scope and probaly never will,All i know is that People of Arab Desent Crashed two planes into The WTC and 1000's died......So will leave it at that if you are not one of them people who did this then i have nothing against you or your veiws.....

And can i ask who the donations on the main page goto????
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Posted: 2005-01-22 01:40:54
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MominIslam Posts: 278

donations goes to the site owner i think... it better not go to some terrorist,,..

im just saying there i a lot to this attack on 9/11 and people say to not talk about it when in actual fact the truth is still not out, did you see even one arab, fbi said they found a passport of one of the terrorists on the trade center crash site, when everything was desintergrated, then this was not mentioned of again. they did not even bring this up again, but people were questioning it.

the fbi let it go like it was nothin,
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Posted: 2005-01-22 01:51:35
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ADT0079 Posts: 100

It's widely known it was arabs who did the Wtc

and i watched your techno induced rubbish and fact is with the flash Video they had you could put or edit anything in that whole clip,two theres no proof any of them people or comments made are real where is video of the gas clerk or the guy that heard what sounded like a small plane i want video interveiws with them.....there are not any because IMHO mst of the crap is BS on that Video clip and what was the Chanting at the Start???/couldnt figure out what he was saying

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Posted: 2005-01-22 01:55:32
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MominIslam Posts: 278

, did you see an arab flying it, was there any audio of an arab on the radio, did u hear it, these things fall in to the same category, that is why we ourselves inidividually gotta find out these things, the more you find out, the more it raises questions, there is no hard evidence, just a low cost way of deception , to start wars and take oil.

imagin a time where america stared paying bucket loads for oil, cuz they slowly run out, they are takin out the big guns and taking the oil so they wont have to pay a fortune in future,
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Posted: 2005-01-22 02:27:18
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M1528A Posts: 13

I found this remarkable.
@Sammy

You said you heard that they had a design fault, searched for this information as I to was told that.

Backing up Sammy_Boy

I read on BBC and About and many others

I have read many articles in my searches which say the same thing about the centre of WTC and it gave way which caused the Building to collapse floor by floor


Here is the one from About
http://architecture.about.com/library/weekly/aawtc-collapse.htm

The one from BBC which Mominislam spoke of ( I Think )
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1540044.stm


Backing up Mominislam

Ok if you have read them you will see the picture of the BBC one which it shows that it has 4 steel beams in 1 reinforced concrete,, It is a bit strange that if a 757 can go through 3 reinforced walls, should not a 767 go through a 244 column
The truth is, as it is on camera and so many saw it, the 767 did not come out the other end of the tower, in fact you can see that it almost vanishes as it makes contact with the south tower most of the gas blow up outside. That means that plane could not penetrate them 3 sections of the pentagon at all, it most be something else.

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Posted: 2005-01-22 02:31:46
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Sammy_boy Posts: > 500

Although I very much doubt that the americans themselves were behind 9/11, I can certainly see your thinking regarding the oil. The US probably is quite frustrated at having oil prices dictated to them by a cartel of mainly middle-eastern countries, and would want in on the deal. I am perhaps a little naive here, but I don't think even this moronic Bush administration (who were only voted into office a few months before 9/11) would engineer a complex plot that killed over 3,000 of it's citizens just to get their foot in the door at OPEC?

You could however argue that the US 'made' Al-Quieda or at least sowed it's seeds when they financed muhajadeen groups in Afghanistan during the Russian occupation though!
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Posted: 2005-01-22 02:35:14
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M1528A Posts: 13

It does not end there

Here is an actual picture of the Twin towers being built you can clearly see more then 4 steel beams

And there is a plan here of it

Photo

Plan

What BBC show (which you can tell is a load of BULL S…)

Look at the photo again count the black beams how much can you see on the plan it shows 44 each one has 4 beams which means 4 x 44 = 176 steel beams
They expect us to believe that the fire melted all these.. Bull…… and why would the south tower go down first. When it was hit wrong and hit second?????

There is something Very Odd about this, No matter how you look at it and how much you try to believe, there are some major flaws to the real story, in Fact the USA have said that they have Evidence that its was bin laden, which they claimed on the 13/9/2001, and they said they would release in due time, I have never found this evidence and we all know it has never been released to this day…??? Makes you think don’t it

More then anything here at this moment, the conspiracy theory is more likely the idea that bin laden planed it. As there is no evidence.

Plus they went to war with Iraq with only a Theory of that sadam had weapons of mass destruction, we all know that, but again no evidence, just a conspiracy theory.


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Posted: 2005-01-22 02:40:00
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MominIslam Posts: 278

its very true sammy boy,,

i just dont know, remember when everyone hated this new bush as president, everyone made fun of him, it could be something to make everyone realise that he could handle the job, im not exactly sure when he was just made to the office, but arabs they mention meant they had to learn to fly from scratch within 2 months, dont sound realistic

especially how they did a perfect job supposedly, i for one thing know that anything can be manipluative, not just flash presentationd videos, but the tv aswell
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Posted: 2005-01-22 02:45:45
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ADT0079 Posts: 100

you have your thought and i have mine lets end it there...We won't know the truth so if it takes you believing that we killed are own people for oil to make you live in peace then good leave it at that but you yourself do not have enough proof to make anyone else change there outlook on what happend..There's somethings i look at about the arab world that you would not like but those are my opinoins and i will keep them to myself and you should do the same unless you have some evidence yoursdelf to back your claim besides a cheesy Flash Video with no solid proof......


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Posted: 2005-01-22 03:06:48
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