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Needs and wants, I've got the money, so I'll buy a P800. What can I do with it, I can play games in colour, I can tke photos, I can work on spreadsheets (which would've meant I wouldn't have to be in at work right now (9pm Sunday night)... because the device would be convenient enough that I would actually use it... okay I accept I don't need a P800 for all of this, other devices will do these things as well or better that are out now, but I think if one device will do it and I will carry it with me at all times, then that will suit me pretty well. If you don't want it fine.
Obviously not everyone is going to want one, mobile phones are in many ways just image wear, like sunglasses or watches. They all (mostly) do the same job, but some can cost $5 and some can cost $5000. My gf just bought me a nice bottle of champers last week, an '83 Salon, it's not like everyone needs one, but if you can get it, and you can appreciate the difference, you'll really enjoy it.
So I am looking forward to a P800, just hoping the wait isn't too long. I guesss it depends where the delay in se's production cycle is coming from, is it inadequate testing? not enough software? or just difficulty ramping the production up. It could be that se release small numbers of the P800 in september/october, but doesn't do a major launch until they can put enough phones in the stores to make it worth while. With a more complex device like this, they'll pay to sell it out of shops with a decent level of support ('cause it's bound to have a few bugs, and constant hard reboots will piss peeps off, so they are going to need knowledgeable service staff).
That would be my guess actually, that way they say to their analysts, we haven't delayed the model (by putting about 50 in the stores), but don't really release it until the christmas rush is on us.
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Posted: 2002-08-18 21:48:00
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I agree with faca, but I would like to say that I don't want or need to show my toys to someone. A lot of people will not even understand what a P800 is... My friends will tell me (again!) that I'm a fucking geek, and they'll be right (again!). I have an iPAQ THAT WORKS PERFECTLY with my T39, a quite useless T65. The P800 is just another toy, but I like it, I can afford it, and I will buy it. I know that's stupid too. But we all are just monkeys with a better good looking human shape, pretending to be men.
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Posted: 2002-08-18 23:58:00
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I agree with faca, but I would like to say that I don't want or need to show my toys to someone. A lot of people will not even understand what a P800 is... My friends will tell me (again!) that I'm a fucking geek, and they'll be right (again!). I have an iPAQ THAT WORKS PERFECTLY with my T39, a quite useless T65. The P800 is just another toy, but I like it, I can afford it, and I will buy it. I know that's stupid too. But we all are just monkeys with a better good looking human shape, pretending to be men.
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Posted: 2002-08-19 00:00:00
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For all you nay sayers that insist that the P800 will bereleased in Dec, please take note of the following article I copied for you from the SE developer world website...
Sony Ericsson at Sybase TechWave 2002
Sony Ericsson participated at Sybase's TechWave 2002 user training and solutions conference arranged on August 5-9 at the San Diego Convention Center, California. We exhibited in the m-Business Pavilion and demonstrated the P800, a GSM/GPRS triband smartphone that runs iAnywhere Ultralite db and is shipping fall 2002. Philip Vanhoutte, Corporate Vice President of Marketing at Sony Ericsson, participated in a panel discussion in the opening keynote of the conference.
....please note the statement "shipping in fall2002". December is Winter -thank you!
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Posted: 2002-08-19 05:15:00
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No ... I don't think you can work on spreadsheet ... as the P800 has only the 'viewer' for most M$ Office formats. SE will probably have to pay a bundle to M$ if they want to have the editing feature. And I don't think M$ will be nice enough to give it away cheap as they will be setting up the P800 to kill off Pocket PC. Any 3rd party software will probably costs the moon with all the M$ licensing thingy.
It's the same with the OS. Everyone is going for Symbian and M$ is going alone with their own Stinger OS.
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On 2002-08-18 21:48, andrew99 wrote:
... I can work on spreadsheets (which would've meant I wouldn't have to be in at work right now (9pm Sunday night)...
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Posted: 2002-08-19 07:34:00
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That's true, SE announced some viewers of the most common documents, pdf, doc, xls, but no license or royalty is need, neither to view nor to edit (save) in those formats. I'm working in a company that builds applications for massive printing using an IBM format, AFP, and we provide coverters for almost all the existing 'viewing' formats. 'Edit' a file in a certain format is nonsense, we can open it or save it, and third parties could easily provide even freeware editors, like open office under win.
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Posted: 2002-08-19 08:02:00
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just to clarify:
winter season starts on dec 22. so any date between sept. 23 to dec. 21 is still fall...
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Posted: 2002-08-19 08:39:00
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@Froddan
got affected or hit with my post boy? i know a child is like that. just because i posted that you got irked by it. tsk tsk tsk... admit it the p800 leaves your 7650 in the dust. SE made a better toy! i do not consider these gadgets a toy for i need them for my simple, typical everyday use. it's like a world without a car and these gadgets will be the future. if some of the guys do not want it then go back to the darkages i would suggest. if anyone got pissed off with my post again then you are also a child understand.
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Posted: 2002-08-19 09:30:00
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Friend inform me, that he saw P800 for sale in Frankfurt, DE (no more info and he is out of phone now, couse travel to US, so I dont know more), but he is serious.
Maybe in december in US, it is always later than Europe.
Martin
[ This Message was edited by: mmort7 on 2002-08-19 08:35 ]
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Posted: 2002-08-19 09:33:00
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Isn't that exactly what I said? The P800 will have more uses than the 7650, just as the 7650 has more uses than the t68. And I will get a P800 when it gets on the market. But it's not out yet, is it????
Untill P800 hits the market, the 7650 is the most suitable phone for my uses.
You see, I don't care what brand logo the phone has, as long as it has the features I need and works as it's meant to.
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Posted: 2002-08-19 11:55:00
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