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On 2023-09-02 22:26:16, cool_sauce wrote:
I have to say I was wrong about 5IV zoom lens vs 5V 2x crop. 2x crop on 5V is absolute garbage compared to super tiny telephoto sensor on 5IV. By comparing images on gsmarena there is clear lack of texture on all 2x crop images of 5V. What a shit show. And not only that, they also gave 5V display frame of 10V so it has thicker side bezels compared to 5IV. And not only that
but some Taiwan guy did the 5IV vs 5V comparison and 5V main camera is so super HDR looking compared to 5IV which burns highlights but it looks a lot more natural. 5V main camera casts object colors on white walls, makes skin tones too yellow and so on. 5IV does none of that.
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=569&t=6838403
Check out the photo of a girl sitting in a purple chair, 5V casts purple color on a wall, floor while upper wall and white doors are yellow. QB sensors have a really hard time keeping white as close to white as possible.
Anyone was expecting different? I said it was gonna be trash.
To do this trick, you need to use the full 48MP that out of QB brings tons of artifacts, the use center of the image. Way worse than what you would have by using center of bayer camera.
Sony needs to stop with cropping thing. Spek confirmed last year that periscope is imx650. That is 40MP 1/1.7" previously used by huawei (P and Mate 30 series) .. Sony is using less than its 1/3.
At least in Europe, it is €50 cheaper than 5iv was.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-09-02 23:00 ]
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Posted: 2023-09-02 23:58:12
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Whatever they did in 5V 2x process they have botched some steps in there. Also QB crop can't keep the whole frame in focus and can't keep up with tiny patterns as shown below. Just do 100% on balcony mesh
This is 10V telephoto
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgr[....]a-10-v/camera/gsmarena_010.jpg
This is 5V 2x
https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgr[....]ia-5-v/camera/gsmarena_024.jpg
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Posted: 2023-09-03 10:21:39
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It is pretty clear sony does not even care about 10 and 5. Just make both. Just check the announcement of 5iv and 5v. Not a single person from sony is there. Just unknown guest. Now compare to 1. There is always someone from Sony, someone from Qualcomm, the video is longer and more technical.
About side frames. Any info if 5v is using 10v screen?
https://www.eprice.com.tw/mob[....]6/1/rv/sony-xperia-5-iv-review[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-09-04 22:09 ]
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Posted: 2023-09-03 12:53:53
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On 2023-09-03 12:53:53, Hawk12 wrote:
It is pretty clear sony does not even care about 10 and 5. Just make both. Just check the announcement of 5iv and 5v. Not a single person from sony is there. Just unknown guest. Now compare to 1. There is always someone from Sony, someone from Qualcomm, the video is longer and more technical.
About side frames. Any info if 5v is using 10v screen?
https://www.eprice.com.tw/mob[....]6/1/rv/sony-xperia-5-iv-review
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-09-04 22:09 ]
Cover glass of the display is same on both 5 and 10 that's beyond obvious. I guess internals are different, that's a given.
Comparison images on that link show much better panel and frame integration on 5V compared to 5IV and much better camera island on 5V. So at least they evolved in housing quality compared to last gen.
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Posted: 2023-09-05 22:04:59
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On 2023-09-05 22:04:59, cool_sauce wrote:
On 2023-09-03 12:53:53, Hawk12 wrote:
It is pretty clear sony does not even care about 10 and 5. Just make both. Just check the announcement of 5iv and 5v. Not a single person from sony is there. Just unknown guest. Now compare to 1. There is always someone from Sony, someone from Qualcomm, the video is longer and more technical.
About side frames. Any info if 5v is using 10v screen?
https://www.eprice.com.tw/mob[....]6/1/rv/sony-xperia-5-iv-review
Cover glass of the display is same on both 5 and 10 that's beyond obvious. I guess internals are different, that's a given.
Comparison images on that link show much better panel and frame integration on 5V compared to 5IV and much better camera island on 5V. So at least they evolved in housing quality compared to last gen.
5v is so lame that looks like it is not gonna be available in all markets 1v is sold. Days ago I saw it was not on sony UK page, sony USA does not have it as well.
Bonus: so , iphone 15 pro max may have exmor T periscope. Sony using crap crop of 650. 🤦🏻♂️
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-09-06 13:15 ]
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Posted: 2023-09-05 23:47:24
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Bonus: so , iphone 15 pro max may have exmor T periscope. Sony using crap crop of 650. 🤦🏻♂️
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-09-06 13:15 ]
this?
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4941189498278560
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Posted: 2023-09-06 17:48:31
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Not exactly. Latest rumors say 15/15+ use exmor T main camera (48MP 1/1.6") while Pro Max has 1/2" or 1/1.9" exmor T in periscope.
Sony has obligation to use exmor T on all rear and front for Mark 6. No excuses to avoid.
Bonus 2: So, for Asia, sony advertises 5v as " phone for women" , then videos for Europe, as "phones for 40ish single cute men".
Bonus 3: So, 1v has back Gorilla Victus ( " gorilla glass 7" ) but 5v rear is Victus 2 (" gorilla glass 9") .
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-09-07 04:04 ]
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Posted: 2023-09-06 19:28:20
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On 2023-09-06 19:28:20, Hawk12 wrote:
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Not exactly. Latest rumors say 15/15+ use exmor T main camera (48MP 1/1.6") while Pro Max has 1/2" or 1/1.9" exmor T in periscope.
Sony has obligation to use exmor T on all rear and front for Mark 6. No excuses to avoid.
Bonus 2: So, for Asia, sony advertises 5v as " phone for women" , then videos for Europe, as "phones for 40ish single cute men".
Bonus 3: So, 1v has back Gorilla Victus ( " gorilla glass 7" ) but 5v rear is Victus 2 (" gorilla glass 9") .
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-09-07 04:04 ]
and they are like "three eye catching colors". It's black, white and blue. Can it be more basic?
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Posted: 2023-09-07 12:20:02
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On 2023-09-07 12:20:02, Ppl wrote:
On 2023-09-06 19:28:20, Hawk12 wrote:
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Not exactly. Latest rumors say 15/15+ use exmor T main camera (48MP 1/1.6") while Pro Max has 1/2" or 1/1.9" exmor T in periscope.
Sony has obligation to use exmor T on all rear and front for Mark 6. No excuses to avoid.
Bonus 2: So, for Asia, sony advertises 5v as " phone for women" , then videos for Europe, as "phones for 40ish single cute men".
Bonus 3: So, 1v has back Gorilla Victus ( " gorilla glass 7" ) but 5v rear is Victus 2 (" gorilla glass 9") .
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2023-09-07 04:04 ]
and they are like "three eye catching colors". It's black, white and blue. Can it be more basic?
it is gray, not white. I believe it is same gray of 1 v
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Posted: 2023-09-07 14:05:40
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Lack of high profile reviews of 5V is concerning. Even YouTube videos are sparce. Here and there just some Japanese random dudes got the phone and posted their in-depth videos while there are still new videos of 1V unboxing being posted regularly.
Will we ever see 5VI if this flops like it seems it will?
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Posted: 2023-09-09 14:54:59
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