>
New Topic
>
Reply<
Esato Forum Index
>
Sony Ericsson / Sony >
Windows Mobile
> Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 discussion
Bookmark topic
XPERIA X1 vs Touch Pro: Screen Rotation Speed Test
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bfBLsMl-yoI
--
Posted: 2008-11-12 22:01:00
Edit :
Quote
On 2008-11-12 20:21:14, myth® wrote:
and how's it on wifi ?
I haven't set WiFi up yet as I had read about the Vodafone WiFi problem.
Would never use WiFi in any case as when I have WiFi access I have a laptop in any case.
--
Posted: 2008-11-12 22:27:14
Edit :
Quote
On 2008-11-12 21:35:59, melk wrote:
On 2008-11-12 19:22:56, Creid wrote:
On 2008-11-12 18:28:04, melk wrote:
Did anyone try to pair X1 with a stereo bluetooth handsfree (like HBH-DS970 or HBH-DS980)?
Do we get good audio quality, remote control and track/caller names on the lcd?
yes all ok with srs-btm30 speakers, bt50 headphones and mbr-100.
On X1 you can change bt quality in settings low, med, high and 44 or 48 hz, i couldnt notice the difference in headphones.
anyone have info on these settings please ?
OK, but do we have remote control and track/caller info on lcd?
Regarding AVRCP support this is confirmed working (by me) on:
Windows Media Player
S2P
Remote commands does NOT work in the SE Media panel.
Track and caller ID doesn't work at all.
--
Posted: 2008-11-12 22:54:09
Edit :
Quote
Hi,
Does anyone know if it's possible to set priorities for internet connections?
On my P1 I had my wireless set as my main one, and then if it couldn't obtain it the phone would then connect via GPRS. So far the only way I've found of connecting to Wifi is going through the comm manager, otherwise any other internet program connects by default to GPRS.
--
Posted: 2008-11-12 23:51:24
Edit :
Quote
the concept of priorities like on UIQ3 doesn't really exist
normally, on WM, the default is a "known" wifi conection if in range otherwise its whatever 3g/edge/gprs network connection is available.
however, if you are within range of a wifi connection that is not known, it will automatically prompt you to connect with one of those though you can reject that and revert again to a 3g/edge/gprs connection
note that this doesn't take into account what vodafone or other branded phones might do
--
Posted: 2008-11-13 00:01:30
Edit :
Quote
On 2008-11-12 20:08:58, masseur wrote:
...my point being that the announcement seemed to further cement that there is no X1a...
Hi Masseur,
The european version will not work in Canada, USA the rest of the Americas and Autralia because the UMTS radio bands are not the same.
So the unbranded USA version of Xperia
Has a different UMTS Radio 850/1900/2100
and QVGA recording instead of VGA
Other that that all the specs are the same and should perform the same.
This version was known extensively during development as the "X1a"
but apparently they kept the name X1 but still is not the same identical phone as the X1 in europe.
The announced store price for unbranded is $800 USD, about $540 GBP
Hope this clarify the questions about x1a
.
--
Posted: 2008-11-13 00:37:17
Edit :
Quote
On 2008-11-13 00:37:17, pinguino2 wrote:
The european version will not work in Canada, USA the rest of the Americas and Autralia because the UMTS radio bands are not the same.
but I have seen many reports that say the X1 works fine in US though some report they have to sepcifcialy choose the appropriate frequency rather than relying on the automatic setting?
I'll certainly tell you if mine works on the Telstra 850 frequency when I get home in Feb as I have a Telstra aus sim card.
So the unbranded USA version of Xperia
Has a different UMTS Radio 850/1900/2100
and QVGA recording instead of VGA
Other that that all the specs are the same and should perform the same.
this is based on what? as I've mentioned, I have read comments that it works fine in US when manually selecting frequency.
This version was known extensively during development as the "X1a"
but apparently they kept the name X1 but still is not the same identical phone as the X1 in europe.
The announced store price for unbranded is $800 USD, about $540 GBP
Hope this clarify the questions about x1a
sorry but this clarifies nothing unless you personally have direct experience otherwise we're both speculating on facts we have found, and I'm happy to say (until I get back to Sydney) that I'm basing my judgement on what I have read elsewhere from people who are using X1 in US (just look on XDA developers for example)
--
Posted: 2008-11-13 00:54:37
Edit :
Quote
On 2008-11-10 06:51:21, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-11-10 03:34:41, mario2004 wrote:
Hey,how does this device compare to the HTc Touch HD? The screen size and camera are obviously bigger/better on the HD,how about the rest? Is it safe to say the HD is the ULTIMATE phone/pda out there?
@mario2004
You are one of the last surviving haters...congratulations
What type of phone do YOU have ?
I would say X1 is the best simply because you hang around here trying to prove that it's not. You know, people have a tendency to tear down what's on top
@WhyBe Was it really necessary to make comments like that? And yes,I do love HTC products with or without your blessing. I simply won't listen to your prescriptions. Please STOP fighting. Is not getting us/you anywhere.Lets leave it here buddy.
@Other users - tx for your comments. I find the list most usefull
and definitely use it with my next WM device purchase.
--
Posted: 2008-11-13 00:56:43
Edit :
Quote
On 2008-11-12 10:45:24, the_mont wrote:
On 2008-11-12 03:18:57, gseh88 wrote:
I'm also curious why everyone seems so obsessed with TF3D. I also have a Touch Pro and found it pretty poor. I admit it looks GREAT but once that wears off, the reality is:
1. The Today screen can't be configured to include your favourite apps.
2. The Today screen shows tomorrow's appointments before today's so you only see today's appointments if you have nothing on tomorrow!
3. Tapping on the Calendar on the Today screen always brings you to the Windows PIM even if you install a 3rd party PIM and have made it the default.
4. Favourite Contacts kept disappearing and had to be set up again.
5. The Outlook account icon kept disappearing from the Messages screen of TF3D (even though the account itself was still there and when unread mail was synched to it, the number of unread messages would increase). The only fix was a hard reset.
6. The volume settings when using the TF3D media player were totally inadequate. The only volume buttons available were the hardware buttons on the side and on the Touch Pro, the minimum setting was OK on the tube train but way too loud in most other situations (admittedly I use very sensitive ear phones - Shure se530). On the Windows Media Player, there is a separate volume control on the bottom right which could also be adjusted to take into account the sensitvity of the ear phones being used.
7. On the TF3D music player album artwork did not appear on some albums but did for others even though they appear on all when using Windows Media.
These are just issues I remember off the top of my head so there are lots of others I've forgotten. You can see why it puzzles me when you all seem to rave about TF3D. Is this a case of the grass being greener.........
[ This Message was edited by: gseh88 on 2008-11-12 02:19 ]
[ This Message was edited by: gseh88 on 2008-11-12 02:24 ]
Hi Bloob,
Firstly not everyone is obsessed with TF3, so each to there own. Others like SPB, some like the default panels. So it always surprises me when someone attacks a product, without seeking help or clarification on the problems they have. Many of us will and can help (if you're interested) but if not, no worries either. Obviously your experience is not a good one, but others (as you've said) do not share your problems, with the same device... question should be why? Or is your view the only view? Like I said, we might be able to help - if you'd like it.
Just a thought: maybe you have an old version of the TF3 conversion? Where did you download it from? As there is more than one version floating around.
In repsonse, :
1. Not at the moment, but this is being worked on, check out XDA=Developers.
2. I use appointments, and my screen displays them in order
3. I have tried other PIM's and this is a Windows mobile issue, a registry change is required for it to be used as the default program. Much like Internet Exploder over Opera Browser.
4. Don't have this issue at all.
5. Don't have this issue at all.
6. Your statement doesn't make sense? It's not loud enough, or it's too loud? Most would be extremely happy to hear it's too loud - as you can always turn it down. Hardware buttons - and the problem is?
7. Don't have this issue, what is your recording format? I have both MP3's and WMA's running and displaying album correctly through the TF3D player. I even have some music in different folders (my documents, music, my_music, etc.) and it still picks up the album art correctly from them.
So once again, here to help, but if it's still not for you, that's ok. That's why we have a choice.
Chris
[ This Message was edited by: the_mont on 2008-11-12 09:50 ]
Chris,
First and foremost, you have misunderstood my post. I was just pondering why there is such enthusiasm for TF3D and giving my point of view after trying it out for a few weeks on my HTC Touch Pro. Obviously from what I have said, I have no intention of installing it on my X1!
Regarding the point about the volume control, I understand fully why we would all normally be crying out for more volume, not less, after years of struggle with my P990, M600 and P1. But on my Touch Pro using the TF3D player, setting the volume to the very first level above silent is still too loud in most circumstances. When using Windows Media player there is a separate volume control on the bottom right which when adjusted to suit my ear phones (usually about 25%) means there is no problem.
Re album art, I only use mp3 format but the point is, when using the Windows player on the same phone all the artwork is present and correct even if some are missing on the TF3D player.
So Chris, please relax a little, I'm not attacking anyone but simply putting forward my own findings to balance the TF3D picture. I will also be the first to admit I know little about the technicalities of phones but am a heavy and experienced user with enough interest to look up the various websites when I have a problem.
--
Posted: 2008-11-13 01:32:15
Edit :
Quote
On 2008-11-13 00:54:37, masseur wrote:
On 2008-11-13 00:37:17, pinguino2 wrote:
The european version will not work in Canada, USA the rest of the Americas and Autralia because the UMTS radio bands are not the same.
Masseur wrote:
but I have seen many reports that say the X1 works fine in US though some report they have to sepcifcialy choose the appropriate frequency rather than relying on the automatic setting?
I'll certainly tell you if mine works on the Telstra 850 frequency when I get home in Feb as I have a Telstra aus sim card.
Pinguino1 wrote:
NO. Sorry When you get home your Xperia X1 will work only on GSM but not on 3G HSDPA.
So the unbranded USA version of Xperia
Has a different UMTS Radio 850/1900/2100
and QVGA recording instead of VGA
Other that that all the specs are the same and should perform the same.
masseur wrote:
this is based on what? as I've mentioned, I have read comments that it works fine in US when manually selecting frequency.
Pinguino1 wrote:
Based on what? below I'll show documents.
Manually select the frequency? if the X1 doesn't not have the hardware (UMTS 850) there is nothing to select.
Those comments are local. The Xperia X1 will not work on 3G UMTS in every place in the USA. For example: Miami and Detroit it won't get 3G because tnose cities are UMTS 850 and the Xperia X1 don't have it.
If you come to New York, YES it will work here because we have UMTS1900
This version was known extensively during development as the "X1a"
but apparently they kept the name X1 but still is not the same identical phone as the X1 in europe.
The announced store price for unbranded is $800 USD, about $540 GBP
Hope this clarify the questions about x1a
masseur wrote:
sorry but this clarifies nothing unless you personally have direct experience otherwise we're
both speculating on facts we have found, and I'm happy to say (until I get back to Sydney) that I'm basing my judgement on what I have read elsewhere from people who are using X1 in US (just look on XDA developers for example)
Pinguino1 wrote:
Masseur, please, I don't speculate I've show you facts before and I show facts now. I'm just trying to help.
Don't you think is better to do somthing NOW instead of getting home and get a surprise? it doesn't matter how much you want to deny reality when you get home If Telstra ONLY have 3G on 850 your Xperia will work only GSM but not 3G.
Let me make this simple Masseur:
Your Xperia has 3 bands for 3G UMTS speeds 900/1900/2100
Telstra in Australia Uses UMTS 850 for 3G speed.
The USA version X1a has 3 bands for 3G UMTS 850/1900/2100
This will work in Australia because X1a has UMTS 850 for 3G
I know there are Carriers in AU that use 1900/2100 for 3G Can't you use them?
Here some facts:
The FCC is the Communication authority. Every electronic company who wants to market/use any electronic device must comply with required testing and certification with the FCC.
Below some documents from the FCC:
Xperia X1
FCC ID:PY7A3880001
look at photo 18- X1 CPU Qualcomm MSM7200A
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/pro[....]t_id=1011380&native_or_pdf=pdf
X1 FCC required label presented by Sony Ericcson Look closely the FCC ID for the X1
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/pro[....]t_id=1011371&native_or_pdf=pdf
User manual presented for both the X1 and the X1a
Look at page 2 on the top. Those are the radio bands for the X1 and the X1a
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/pro[....]t_id=1011378&native_or_pdf=pdf
****************************************
XPERIA X1a
FCC ID: PY7A3880002
X1a CPU photo 22- it is different= qualcomm MSM7201A (no VGA recording)
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod[....]t_id=1028928&native_or_pdf=pdf
Xperia X1a Label provided by SE.
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod[....]t_id=1028920&native_or_pdf=pdf
Letter of confidentiality for FCC ID : A3880002 (This is the ID for X1a)
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod[....]t_id=1028921&native_or_pdf=pdf
That SE wants to use
X1 for both versions, that's just marketing decision.
The fact remains that the models
X1 and X1a are registered with the FCC and that the radio bands are different.
I hope I helped. Now is up to you.
Pinguino1
[ This Message was edited by: pinguino2 on 2008-11-13 14:49 ]
--
Posted: 2008-11-13 03:54:43
Edit :
Quote
New Topic
Reply
