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In Aus, we have only one carrier providing service on UMTS850, and that is Telstra. All other networks (including that shared by Telstra and Three) are UMTS2100.
However all networks have more or less equal metro coverage. Telstra Next G, the 850 service, has slightly better country coverage than the 2100 networks.
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Posted: 2008-11-13 05:56:29
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On 2008-11-13 05:56:29, max_wedge wrote:
In Aus, we have only one carrier providing service on UMTS850, and that is Telstra. All other networks (including that shared by Telstra and Three) are UMTS2100.
However all networks have more or less equal metro coverage. Telstra Next G, the 850 service, has slightly better country coverage than the 2100 networks.
Thank you!
What Masseur fails to realize that Australia uses different band (850) throughout the country where as in Canada & USA not ALL provinces/states use 850Mhz. In the Eastern/North USA States & eastern provinces in Canada we're set to 850Mhz predominantly. ALthough 1900Mhz towers are there - their set ONLY to GSM/GPRS/EDGE no 3G is turned on the network software/switch if you will.
MANY ppl in many boards (Here, Howardforums.com, 1 thread in a site.com & a few others) are experiencing network issues on AT&T because the Euro version ONLY has the 1900Mhz 3G band - the EDGE works on that quadband but no 3G.
Masseur is the KING of windows mobile here on Esato - but I'm very confident of my findings against his on bands here in North America since I live in Toronto = an eastern city on Rogers which follows AT&T due to the old partnership Rogers had with AT&T when AT&T began building their 3G network - regardless of the Cingular brand name switch after then back to AT&T.
Either way GLAD
came out with official announcement and Black Friday with all this demand will DEFINATELY be a CASH COW for SE's coffers. Buy those stocks boys.
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Posted: 2008-11-13 06:34:05
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On 2008-11-13 00:01:30, masseur wrote:
the concept of priorities like on UIQ3 doesn't really exist
normally, on WM, the default is a "known" wifi conection if in range otherwise its whatever 3g/edge/gprs network connection is available.
however, if you are within range of a wifi connection that is not known, it will automatically prompt you to connect with one of those though you can reject that and revert again to a 3g/edge/gprs connection
note that this doesn't take into account what vodafone or other branded phones might do
Can an application allow a connection preference?? There is at least 2 on S60 so there MUST be a few on WM, no?
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Posted: 2008-11-13 06:37:06
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On 2008-11-13 00:01:30, masseur wrote:
the concept of priorities like on UIQ3 doesn't really exist
normally, on WM, the default is a "known" wifi conection if in range otherwise its whatever 3g/edge/gprs network connection is available.
however, if you are within range of a wifi connection that is not known, it will automatically prompt you to connect with one of those though you can reject that and revert again to a 3g/edge/gprs connection
note that this doesn't take into account what vodafone or other branded phones might do
Cheers for clearing that up Masseur - I was wondering about connection priorities. I've found no trace of them on my X1 and was worried about data charges (until my unlimited mobileweb bolt-on kicks in!)
Dave
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Posted: 2008-11-13 08:54:08
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On 2008-11-12 18:46:29, the_mont wrote:Phone vodafone, I was amongst the first wave to receive my X1 (had it over 2 weeks now) on Vodafone, and it all works fine for me
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Have done.
Apparently I've to contact Microsoft as it must be their problem since there is nothing wrong with the Network or the handsets internet connection.
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Posted: 2008-11-13 10:45:10
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Chris,
First and foremost, you have misunderstood my post. I was just pondering why there is such enthusiasm for TF3D and giving my point of view after trying it out for a few weeks on my HTC Touch Pro. Obviously from what I have said, I have no intention of installing it on my X1!
So Chris, please relax a little, I'm not attacking anyone but simply putting forward my own findings to balance the TF3D picture. I will also be the first to admit I know little about the technicalities of phones but am a heavy and experienced user with enough interest to look up the various websites when I have a problem.
I'm always relaxed, just trying to help
. Just to put a line underneath this, this forum is for SE Xperia, not HTC or Nokia, etc... Therefore my comments directly relate to issues with an X1, if you have not installed it on your X1, the conversation in this forum is... well slightly pointless.
Your own findings are not balanced, as they "DO NOT" represent or correspond to the X1. Lets keep this forum for X1 issues.
Chris
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Posted: 2008-11-13 11:31:15
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I've got a black xperia on the way from voda, the first phone i'm actually going to be properly interested in mobile internet for, i've got unlimited mobile data & email, what would the download limit be and would things like a lot of online video streaming get me a ticking off from voda?
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Posted: 2008-11-13 12:36:55
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On 2008-11-13 10:45:10, pmcg wrote:Apparently I've to contact Microsoft as it must be their problem since there is nothing wrong with the Network or the handsets internet connection.
Works OK with a colleagues SIM on the same Group Plan as me, just does not work with mine.
Was nice of VF to tell me adamantly this morning that there was nothing wrong at their end & I should go off and contact someone else.
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Posted: 2008-11-13 13:59:07
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@prom1, in Australia, we don't have many disparate providers as in the states - All providers offer their services in all states. In terms of coverage - the NextG network has greater coverage mainly due to the greater range of the lower frequency, there aren't actually more NextG towers than umts 2100 towers. From what I undertand all Next G towers support standard (2100) 3G for fallback.
It's a little different in the States and Canada, where somoe operators don't even field a service at all in certain areas.
I think masseur understands quite well the Aus network layout. We can't really lump Aus in with Canada or the States though. As you say, over your way there are 1900 towers that don't support 3G at all and some that do. So it's quite likely that some people have successfully used the European X1 in certain areas but not others. This may be what contributes to the confusion. (as pinguino pointed out, even though it's not marketed as such, the US destined X1 is an X1a, with UMTS 850)
In Australia the European X1 will work for all operators 3G, but for Telstra it will only be able to access 3G services on the UMTS 2100 fallback - so it won't benefit from the increased range of the umts 850 Next G network.
On the other hand the X1a will operate on the Next G service, as well as the other 3G networks. BUT, if the initial rumours are true, it means Aussie X1 fans will have to choose between better video recording performance and access to the next g network. Bugger!
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Posted: 2008-11-13 14:20:01
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Hey
Do any of you guys know if there is a more stable version of Touch Flow 3D. I got this problem with the other panels freeze when the version i got know is installed.
If there is or going to be one, where can i find it?
And I would like to know if any one knows when 32gb microSD cards will appear, and if it will be possible to use it on X1?
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Posted: 2008-11-13 15:56:13
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