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On 2013-09-29 02:31:48, false_morel wrote:
But can one pick the 50 ISO manually or only by setting the ND filter?
And how large are the ISO steps? As far as I remember there are four values to pick from.
Yes.
50-
100-
200-
400-
800-
1600
and then in auto mode it seems to be picking any values it "thinks' are appropriate.. pretty spot on for the most part
500
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250
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Posted: 2013-09-29 07:00:50
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On 2013-09-28 18:10:37, davidsic wrote:
I don't understand one thing : with the Galaxy s2/3/4 when i choose ISO 100 i have dark pics but fast speed because limited blur shake, with my ex 808 in low ISO the shutter speed was long and very bright pics but in this case i got quickly blur shake.
I mean in low light conditions.
Sorry for my english.
[ This Message was edited by: davidsic on 2013-09-28 17:11 ]
Heh, i'll tell you why - its because the Galaxy S phones up until my S3 photo settings mean literally nothing, im not sure about the S4. Apart from changing from normal focus to macro, or the megapixel count, by changing other settings very little changes from my experience. Ive played with mine extensively alongside my N8 and where on the N8 changing the ISO produces dramatic effects, on Samsung phones ive found very little change.
I think that's one area Samsung lack, putting proper camera features into their cameraphones. They make by far the best Android phones, but the cameras in those phones are pretty much standard point and shoot idiot proof. Like iPhone cameras.
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Posted: 2013-09-29 12:21:09
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I wish they took these at the same time .. but you can still see the difference
1020
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/re[....]review/camera/gsmarena_010.jpg
808
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/re[....]review/camera/gsmarena_102.jpg
The 1020 optics are bending the buildings nicely
and that 808 pic is from the initial camera drivers it shipped with.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2013-09-29 18:58 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-29 19:57:18
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Obviously the 808 takes more pleasing images for the pixel peeps at the moment.
I have to admit though so does the 1020. The problem is theres no point in comparing them anymore since one of them is completely obsolete and unavailable to almost everyone.
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Posted: 2013-09-29 22:00:11
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With the currently available apps .. I recon I can push it for another 20 months before it starts to show any signs of obsolescence. It all depends on what you need it for
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Posted: 2013-09-29 23:17:11
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After a weekend of photography out with my brother and seeing his pics even beside the best camera phones. I still think nothing beats a proper DSLR or even my brothers Fuji bridge camera. The level of detail is amazing on this camera compared to ANY camera phone.
http://www.jessops.com/online[....]-bridge-camera-89226/show.html
Even after seeing the latest image taken by Sylwester despite being great it's still soft and nothing can still beat a proper camera except maybe camera phones are close to many cheap compacts but not a DSLR. Yes it's all handy with an all in one device but for real quality there is still no competition in my view
This image is great but looking closely the 808 is quite soft and has soft edges. And even worse on the 1020
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=72352[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2013-09-29 23:09 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-30 00:06:50
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^ where ? Can you crop the affected area ? To me it seems pretty sharp across the frame..
And no, nothing can beat a DSLR.. they are made for taking photographs.
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Posted: 2013-09-30 00:37:40
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No I mean the image as a whole looking at it close up is seems quite soft
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Posted: 2013-09-30 01:17:00
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That's up to the user.. if you max out the sharpness they get quite sharp
example:
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]ureview/201305190857Gf8oIY.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3761/9940320034_ba71cf0016_o.jpg
The more sharpness you use, the more grain.. the 808, in auto mode is set for minimum grain.
The 1020 is set for max sharpness, but the images have more grain to them.
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Posted: 2013-09-30 01:30:01
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If you examine the shadows the two photos were taken at a completely different time of the day. Not just at different distant days.
Also though with the 1020 it was mostly shiny, those clouds do make a difference compared to the all clear sky on the 808's photo.
As to the distortion, it's cause of the angle!
Look at the horizon, when you place the camera parallel to the horizon one could achieve zero distortion. (not talking about geometrical distortion here)
In the 1020's photo it was placed upwards while the 808 was parallel..
And then another major difference is the exposure value..
The 808 had more than two stops advantage! 3 stops faster SS, and two thirds of a stop less on the ISO.. One could factor in the quarter stop in aperture as well.. Still more than 2 stops advantage.. I guess it used the ND filter there..
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Posted: 2013-09-30 21:01:10
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