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@peterkay and the others, you might be interested in reading this article about hinduism...a detailed one.
Hinduism
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Posted: 2005-08-05 09:51:00
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Chapter 23 Verses 12-16 from the Holy Quran state:
Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);
Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!
After that, at length ye will die
Again, on the Day of Judgment, will ye be raised up.
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Posted: 2005-08-09 13:45:36
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Verse 88 states:
Say "In Whose Hand is the sovereignty of everything (i.e. treasures of each and everything)? And He protects (all), while against Whom there is no protector, (i.e. if Allah saves anyone none can punish or harm him, and if Allah punishes or harms anyone none can save him), if you know."
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Posted: 2005-08-10 12:34:54
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Chapter 73 of the Tao Te Ching:
Quote:The Tao is always at ease.
It overcomes without competing,
answers without speaking a word,
arrives without being summoned,
accomplishes without a plan.
Its net covers the whole universe.
And though its meshes are wide,
it doesn't let a thing slip through.
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Posted: 2005-08-10 16:53:00
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Chapter 5 from The Holy Quran, verse 32 states:
If anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!
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Posted: 2005-08-11 00:03:26
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Couple of questions
1.What did the Muslims follow before the Quran? As if I understand correct the Quran is approx 1500 years old and we all know that people have been on this planet a lot longer than that. So was their an early book?
2.Why do Jews and Muslims hate each other so much? In the Quran it says
“62. Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.”
Does this not mean as long as we all live good honest life’s and worship our lord were all get a place in heaven/paradise regardless of being Christians, Jews or Sabians (which i think means baptised)?
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Posted: 2005-08-11 18:10:28
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1. You can't say that people just shifted from religion to religion.
Some perhaps saw that Islam came after Christianity, some were born into it, and some didn't have a faith and chose Islam.
2. There are a number of reasons for the hate of Jews.
One tribe of Jews put statues which they worshiped. (those were later destroyed by Moses)
(the story is he destoryed the statues and put an Axe in the head of the largest statue, when that Jewish tribe asked who did this, Moses said, ask your God, which God would allow an axe to chop his head?)
Those were only a specific tribe, and it can be assumed that the Jews we have a hating for are those that believed in statues.
The Jews also killed most of the prophets. (which is not cool)
When a person (Muslim) says he hates Jews, it's the Jews that are against us, and not the Jews that try to live in peace with us.
Also, that section you quoted (aya) is slightly mis-translated. It's basically saying that those who have the faith in God, and believe in his books, but still acknowledge Islam as a faith, have the chance at going to heaven as long as they do righteous things.
Someone may ask, but there is a quote saying Jews dont go to Heaven.
Yes they dont. But the Jews it refers to are those who are against Islam.
FYI
Essa = Jesus
Moses = Mosa
David = Dawood
Noah = Nooh
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Posted: 2005-08-11 18:43:35
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Thanks only just started reading the Quran (upt Chapter 2 verse 115 at the mo) But with all these transations i will never know which is the true transaltion!
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Posted: 2005-08-11 19:01:28
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yeah thats what makes problems
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Posted: 2005-08-11 19:13:02
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On 2005-08-11 19:01:28, joebmc wrote:
Thanks only just started reading the Quran (upt Chapter 2 verse 115 at the mo) But with all these transations i will never know which is the true transaltion!
The Yusuf Ali transalation is most accurate which can be found
here.
However, the other transalations are almost the same - just different wording.
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Posted: 2005-08-11 19:51:41
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