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xumdeo Posts: 498

nope, but they got the framework for launching DMB phones outside japan now

btw, i've uploaded 4 new videos of the k850i and w960, just refer to their individual threads here at esato
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=149361&start=540

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Posted: 2007-06-18 13:12:45
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Aware Posts: > 500

Nice work, Xumdeo!

Chronic to think SE would actually have working, finalized cameras in prototype phones....
...remember, at the N95 announcement, the chap(can't remember his name of the top of my head, sorry) only pulled it out of his pocket, didn't even turn it on!


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Posted: 2007-06-18 13:17:22
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belialwafu Posts: > 500

HD Cellphone...nice...not nice price
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Posted: 2007-06-18 13:45:10
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JuanPablo Posts: > 500

Thanks for the info, Xumdeo
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Posted: 2007-06-18 20:39:31
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scareface Posts: 83

was this posted?

Sony Ericsson – plans, strategy, products, etc by Mobile review
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Posted: 2007-06-19 20:34:17
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JuanPablo Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-19 20:34:17, scareface wrote:
was this posted?

Sony Ericsson – plans, strategy, products, etc by Mobile review


Yep, that was posted on the general foum
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Posted: 2007-06-19 20:47:37
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beca Posts: 224

Elena shows up at FCC

http://justamp.blogspot.com/2[....]sson-elena-appears-at-fcc.html
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Posted: 2007-06-19 23:11:17
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iqtidar Posts: 292

hey, elena is p1
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Posted: 2007-06-20 13:47:16
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makbil Posts: > 500

Guys, in case you may have missed it, I have posted elsewhere that the P1 will not be any different than the P990 in terms of memory leaks, it will just take longer. I strongly urge you all to skip the P1 and wait for a Symbian 9.5 device.


Info/Memory Leak
From UIQ3 open-source software

Garbarge Collector

Symbian OS uses a Garbage Collector as memory manager - in theory this should ease programming.

However Until Symbian 9.5 Symbian only uses an inferior non moving collector. (To be fair: moving collectors don't go well with programming languages which support pointer arithmetic)

With a non moving collector memory becomes fragmented into ever smaller parts until larger memory requests cannot be satisfied any more. To make matter worse: Fragmentation happens a lot quicker of only little free space is available - Which is the case for early UIQ3 phones.

This leads to the dreaded "Restart to improve performance" as restarting is the ultimate way to reclaim and compact all memory. Just ending all programs won't help since there are quite a few programs on the phone which will never end.

As mentioned Symbian 9.5 rectifies this shortcomings and now uses a moving collector which will be able to re-arrange memory so that free memory will be available as one great continues lump.

XIP or the lack of it

Prior to SymbianOS 9.0, many Symbian devices used XIP (eXecute In Place) NOR based memory, which mean nothing had to be loaded into RAM to execute, but this came at the cost of very slow write times. Starting with 9.0, most devices moved to a NAND based memory system, which does not support XIP, and so EVERYTHING has to be loaded into RAM (and kept there) in order to execute. That's why it takes over 40MB of RAM to run the system, as everything is kept at all times
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Posted: 2007-06-20 14:01:11
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domipost Posts: > 500

hey, that elena pic is the same as the fcc lizy pic
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Posted: 2007-06-20 15:14:28
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