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On 2013-12-01 14:23:19, Aycaramba wrote:
Come on, guys. The camera on Z1 is disappointing relative to the hype it has gotten. While I agree it's the best camera on an Android smartphone in terms of producing natural colors and white balance in good lightning conditions, it's downright mediocre in low light conditions, HDR mode, and Panorama shots.
Sony needs to get its shit together, and come up with a promising camera. Better image processing algorithm, Xenon Flash and OIS are just an obvious additions in order to achieve that.
You are absolutely right about that. I have a Xperia ZR and inspite of having a 13MP camera. The same that the Z had. The low light or even no light shots are less than mediocre. You can easily make out the pixellation and non smooth picture. It's not something that can be expected from a Sony Flagship.
In sharp comparison the Nokia Lumia and HTC 4MP Ultra-pixel were way out of the league when it comes to image quality. They are one of the best out there. And I certainly don't think that merely Carl-Zeus lenses are solely responsible for there better image quality. Samsung and Apple both use Sony sensors in there mobiles and still manage to do a better job then Sony itself. That's something that is quite alarming.
[ This Message was edited by: redhotiron on 2013-12-01 15:46 ]
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Posted: 2013-12-01 16:41:09
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The biggest problem is the image processing algorithm. In terms of hardware, the S4 and iPhone 5 are inferior to even the Xperia Z (the Z1 has a stacked and much bigger sensor, so that one is only second to 808 and 1020), yet these two manage to outperform it. The only explanation is better algorithms, Xperia supress too much detail to keep images clean and then compresses them way too much to keep the size down, despite having plenty of memory. Heck, the Z burst mode improves the quality because it has no time to perform the agressive noise suppression algorithm.
And the good news is, with RAW support in future android versions, this will be solved even for old models (Z,T,S ...) making sony competitive again.
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Posted: 2013-12-01 17:28:08
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Look what a found, a new page on JDI's official site appeared, "For Smartphone, Tablet" listing all their available displays lineup - appareantly JDI DOES have 5.2 inch display on their lineup:
http://www.j-display.com/english/product/mobile.html
"Diagonal 13.2cm(5.2-inch) 1080 × (RGB) × 1920 FHD 424ppi LTPS"
this evidence makes the rumors more real, i suppose the "Z2" is going to get a good treat when it comes to the display this time.
"Diagonal 15.0cm(5.9-inch) 1080 × (RGB) × 1920 FHD 373ppi LTPS" goes for next Z Ultra? more pocketable.
"Diagonal 10.9cm(4.3-inch) 720 × (RGB) × 1280 720HD 341ppi LTPS " - is this the display of the Z1 mini that was showed in a pic recently next to the Z1?
more info on that page.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-01 21:11 ]
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Posted: 2013-12-01 22:03:12
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Really hope Sony has good screens 2014
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Posted: 2013-12-01 22:27:23
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supercoolman Posts: > 500
On 2013-12-01 12:04:33, randomuser wrote:
Nice wishlist indeed. Doesn't seem like your wish would come true though
a wishlist for boombox?
On 2013-12-01 22:03:12, amirprog wrote:
Look what a found, a new page on JDI's official site appeared, "For Smartphone, Tablet" listing all their available displays lineup - appareantly JDI DOES have 5.2 inch display on their lineup:
http://www.j-display.com/english/product/mobile.html
"Diagonal 13.2cm(5.2-inch) 1080 × (RGB) × 1920 FHD 424ppi LTPS"
this evidence makes the rumors more real, i suppose the "Z2" is going to get a good treat when it comes to the display this time.
"Diagonal 15.0cm(5.9-inch) 1080 × (RGB) × 1920 FHD 373ppi LTPS" goes for next Z Ultra? more pocketable.
"Diagonal 10.9cm(4.3-inch) 720 × (RGB) × 1280 720HD 341ppi LTPS " - is this the display of the Z1 mini that was showed in a pic recently next to the Z1?
more info on that page.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-01 21:11 ]
are you counting on Sony finally go with single source for parts?
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Posted: 2013-12-01 23:02:01
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Try to find Aladiddins lamp and maybe your wish becomes truth.
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Posted: 2013-12-02 00:47:49
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@ supercoolman
Sony will use two sources for displays but there will be no difference in quality. No more display lottery from Sony!
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Posted: 2013-12-02 01:28:31
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supercoolman Posts: > 500
@DACHA
did you mean multiple sources within JDI or JDI+non-JDI?
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Posted: 2013-12-02 07:35:24
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@supercoolman
Yes, i'm hoping for a single source since JDI is part Sony and they are always expanding since they started to manufacture displays. maybe JDI is still not big enough to manufacture all of sony's displays and they are also selling displays to apple (and other companies?).
@DACHA
nice to know, but if the two resources are two different display manufacturers, then how come no difference in quality this time?
are the other big mobile companies have more then one resource for display panels like sony? i don't recall HTC, samsung, etc. users complaining about the same device with to different displays qualities.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-02 08:54 ]
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Posted: 2013-12-02 08:55:44
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On 2013-12-02 08:55:44, amirprog wrote:
@supercoolman
Yes, i'm hoping for a single source since JDI is part Sony and they are always expanding since they started to manufacture displays. maybe JDI is still not big enough to manufacture all of sony's displays and they are also selling displays to apple (and other companies?).
@DACHA
nice to know, but if the two resources are two different display manufacturers, then how come no difference in quality this time?
are the other big mobile companies have more then one resource for display panels like sony? i don't recall HTC, samsung, etc. users complaining about the same device with to different displays qualities.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-12-02 08:54 ]
All major OEMs that use LCD panels have panel lottery. Be it HTC, LG or Apple.
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Posted: 2013-12-02 10:01:42
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