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Hey guys i think that sony just launch this 037 fix to try and slow down or eliminate this BROD problem untill the really launch this big update that is expected,but they are fully aware of this (brod) problem the k850i is a very attractive phone and if they lose on this one they will continue to lose big time ...For god sake they better solve this problem and do not launch the c902 untill they get it right because it will be the biggest disaster in cell phone history so i know and i have the confidence that are cooking up a storm for us if not , god help us all COME ON SONY COME ON you can do it
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we know its a new platform and unfortunately for us we are the gunni pigs of this but please make us smile once more let your programmers wake up fire them if you have to but the world depends on you not to mention The prestigous K850i FLAHSHIP
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Posted: 2008-04-20 16:53:30
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I had R1CA037 and for some reason SEUS wouldn't let me update. So around 2 weeks ago I decided to use Davinci and I succesfully updated my K850 to R1EA031. Some reboots here and there but all in all, a big improvement. Then a friend told me that the R1EA037 was available so I updated my phone via SEUS two days ago to the America 1 Generic version, and just a few minutes ago I got the BROD.
Any advice?? Is this a hardware issue or should I just use Davinci again to re-install the R1EA031?
is definitely NOT fixing the BROD problem with this version...
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[ This Message was edited by: victorh017 on 2008-04-20 22:56 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-20 23:52:25
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Those that think BROD is not FW related do not know what they are talking about. Read all 400 pages and see if anyone prior to 31 had BROD, as a matter of fact, BROD was coined by someone in this thread right after 31 came out. It has effected everyone from Generic to Branded and from factory flashed to 3rd party flashed. No one at this point can determine what is causing it. Those that think they see a pattern, please read the entire thread, as there is none.
There was a theory that briefly appeared stating that BROD and the restarts had something to do with the M2 card. When I reflashed due to BROD, I took out my card, then flashed w/ 31 France. I never inserted my card to see if the theory was true. I haven't had one restart in a month. I then upgraded to the new 37, initialized, restarted the phone and reinserted my card. This was over a week ago. I have yet to have a restart. I will not say that there is a strong argument for the correlation between BROD and the M2, but from my observation it can very well be. My suggestion: if you get BROD, take out the card before flashing.
Last, to those that think its an isolated incident and that BROD mostly affects branded, 3rd party flashed, or whatever else pattern that they see: I've had the same hardware, the same m2, flashed both times with davinci, yet I got BROD in a month the first time and now I've had not one restart with the same hardware and flash. Also, there are people that get a lot of restarts before BROD, which was the case with me. It gradually increased from once a day to 3-4 times a day in week right before BROD. While some never had a restart and were hit with BROD. So like a said before, there is no pattern to be figured out from the cases observed in this thread.
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Posted: 2008-04-21 01:05:51
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On 2008-04-21 01:05:51, Vlad83 wrote:
Those that think BROD is not FW related do not know what they are talking about. Read all 400 pages and see if anyone prior to 31 had BROD, as a matter of fact, BROD was coined by someone in this thread right after 31 came out. It has effected everyone from Generic to Branded and from factory flashed to 3rd party flashed. No one at this point can determine what is causing it. Those that think they see a pattern, please read the entire thread, as there is none.
There was a theory that briefly appeared stating that BROD and the restarts had something to do with the M2 card. When I reflashed due to BROD, I took out my card, then flashed w/ 31 France. I never inserted my card to see if the theory was true. I haven't had one restart in a month. I then upgraded to the new 37, initialized, restarted the phone and reinserted my card. This was over a week ago. I have yet to have a restart. I will not say that there is a strong argument for the correlation between BROD and the M2, but from my observation it can very well be. My suggestion: if you get BROD, take out the card before flashing.
Last, to those that think its an isolated incident and that BROD mostly affects branded, 3rd party flashed, or whatever else pattern that they see: I've had the same hardware, the same m2, flashed both times with davinci, yet I got BROD in a month the first time and now I've had not one restart with the same hardware and flash. Also, there are people that get a lot of restarts before BROD, which was the case with me. It gradually increased from once a day to 3-4 times a day in week right before BROD. While some never had a restart and were hit with BROD. So like a said before, there is no pattern to be figured out from the cases observed in this thread.
VERY WELL SAID!
btw, it was me - I think - that posted a theory of the BROD in correlation to teh M2 card. Only because flashing with prior phones (K750i, W900, etc) we were advised by DaVinci to remove the external memory card prior to flashing. But again it was just a theory based on asking & suggestion of/to others to try flashing without the M2 or if they did.
I still love this phone and hoping it'll serve me well. I really want to flash to unbrand but I'm a bit hesitant; still if even a little.
Just how many firmware updates did SE do to the K750i or to the K800 before fans considered either phone to be "just right" ??
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Posted: 2008-04-21 03:28:22
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Prom1 - not sure if you were talking specifically about M2 cards, but I've had 2 BRODs with MicroSD card in my phone. The 1st one was less than a week after going to 031 via SEUS, I recovered from it by flashing with DaVinci to a Euro version of 031, and then got another BROD. Flashed again (with MicroSD both times) via DaVinci to R1DA037, adriatic and have been staying with that for over a month and a half now - no BROD, maybe 2 reboots in this whole time.
Anyways - just wanted to see if your theory was M2 specific or any memory card including the MicroSD. I have now checked with SEUS and EA037 is available for me but until all of this gets sorted out I'm hesitant to rush into it...
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Posted: 2008-04-21 07:38:25
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On 2008-04-20 16:10:28, sniper_supra wrote:
I think SE knows about BROD, and I believe that BROD is carrier dependent - alot of O2 phones are the most common victims.
So I guess O2 and other dealers are to blame for the BROD because of firmware alterations. And of course, its a deal with SE, so SE would not be able to penetrate those dealers' activities regarding their own firmware changes.
I don't know, but maybe debranding or complete reflashing then updating is so far the best solution to BROD.
I've got an unbranded model and just modified one of LCARS Expert's flash animations. cool.. ^_^
urrrm... my phone is debranded too... and I had BROD several times...
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Posted: 2008-04-21 08:57:33
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from one thing to another the H symbol in k850 will show if the operators support it i was in denmark this weekend and teliaDK support cellinfo and the H icon cell info do they support both in 2g and 3g.
Soory to say telia dont support this in sweden but then agian were like 10 years behind when it comes to implement this things in sweden...........
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Posted: 2008-04-21 09:36:46
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Just been told o2 are not releasing this software 037 version yet.due to testing on the network.o2 wants to make sure its stable enough for them before they release it.which is a good thing in my opinion what o2 are doing
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Posted: 2008-04-21 10:13:33
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Maybe they are waiting for R3... to release at least that big FW FIX and have no more replace of k850i
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Posted: 2008-04-21 11:19:54
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Update for the 3-UK K850i at last!
Not sure if I saw this mentioned somewhere in this thread, but there is a 3-UK
FOTA only update for this phone (5.3mb), nothing on SEUS still!
Previous version was R1CA029 now R1EA037
Even a service centre re-flash a couple of weeks ago, due to operation failed errors, only gave R1CA029.
The R1DA039 listed as 3 branded firmware on page 1 I have never seen available for the K850, yet it was available for my K910 via SEUS only.
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Posted: 2008-04-21 14:08:18
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