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@ Brix25 No one from MTN is posting stuff here because they all know they GPRS rates are so HIGH.Two big differences between Vodacom and MTN are Vodafone live has free browsing,when you download content from Vodafone live you don't pay for download.You only pay for what you buy.MTN charges you for the game and the download.Lots of companies are buying Voda 3G because you can have your live conferrence streamed to your projector.Companies can stay in there regional officers and watch what the boss is saying.
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Posted: 2005-03-25 19:43:00
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That is all very well, but how will call prices be affected by all this new services?
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Posted: 2005-03-25 21:27:00
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Rick700 is on MTN and he hardly ever posts here or anywhere else for that matter...it's too damn expensive. But please guys for all their faults no-one should underestimate Y'ello. Last year they caught every1 off guard by offering free GPRS. My guess is they'll surprise us again especially with number portability around the corner.
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Posted: 2005-03-25 21:35:27
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Number portability will be around in NOV 05 and all telecom networks will have it @ the same time.When this happens we might have a price war.Comming back to price,since i am a Vodacom dealer i quoted a few customers on blackberry and Moto E1000 and these customers told me we have the same price as Vodafone UK.When Vodacom buys phones after the Vodafone alliance they buy them through Vodafones account because Vodafone has a global buying power Vodacom will never beaten.You do your own check.Visit any Vodashop ask them on a price on a middle to high end phone and visit MTN and you will see MTN will be more in price.Just wait for the Vodafone live handsets to come and you will see fire works
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Posted: 2005-03-25 22:07:29
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Prices vary from place to place... I'd be honest and say that I'll never buy a phone from a Vodashop...they're too damn expensive and the thing about 3G handset prices being that same as the UK is a bit out of context...many people buy them on contract with the handset heavily subsidised. Rather
Compare the local price of say a K700i with that in the UK and you'll see we're being ripped off... But Tahir will somehow justify paying R2800 for the handset.
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Posted: 2005-03-25 22:22:53
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@ BRIX25.Vodashop gives you a 2 year warranty on all handsets which covers the entire cost of the phone..................Some might kill me for saying this......Any Vodashop or Vodacom dealer that does alot of contracts + starterpacks and has been trading for long time will have a huge customer base.These Vodashops commision every month are over R100 000 and even million.Some Vodashops belong to the same people.Did you know if there is a Vodashop in a shopping mall and in the same mall has a VODACOM4U or a Vodacare, the owners are all one.Thats why these stores add a high mark up because they will preffer to sell you a contract.Another thing the prices in UK are cheap because that market is saturated + all the manufactures have factory in those countries so they pay no import or duty cost.India and China sell 5 mill phones a month we don't even do there monthly sales in a year in SA.So volumes brings down prices.Wait for Vodafone branded handsets and you will see prices drop
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Posted: 2005-03-25 22:59:52
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The SA market is also pretty saturated. And no, they don't make phones in Europe, all are made in Asia, especially China. Like I said before...the day any network starts branding their phones they can forget about me as a customer, I don't think I'm the only one feeling this way.
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Posted: 2005-03-25 23:33:49
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@Brix Most new phones that will be available on Vodacom will be Vodafone branded in future.You have to buy a Vodafone branded handset to you use Vodafone Live.Did you know in the UK most of Vodafone customers are on 3G.If Vodafone has to turn of its GSM network today,only 2 million customer will be affected and i read some where on esato that in 2006 2G phones will not be sold in UK,when phones come out the UK networks dont test them.Thats why there are so many people complaininng in other countries of defaults in phones.In SA it has to be ICASA approved than network approved.I am not saying we dont have problems with our phones.These testing delays launching of products and costs are added.
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Posted: 2005-03-25 23:57:31
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I'd prefer a bug-free phone than being the first on the block with a particular model. Vodacom can brand their phones as they like, when I eventually get myself a 3G phone I wouldn't want it branded... So no Vodafone Live for me then.
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Posted: 2005-03-26 07:21:41
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@brix & tahir
In order for me to get a vodafone branded handset, i would really have to get kickass service.
At this moment you can phone customer care only 30 times per month, which in most cases are more than enough but sometimes it takes you up to 10 or 15 calls to fix a problem.
Another thing, MTN only had free gprs because their gprs network had loads and loads of bugs.
To be honest, i am the type of guy that really goes out looking for extras. If MTN decides to give free gprs at the moment....
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Posted: 2005-03-26 07:58:00
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