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On 2012-01-19 03:40:47, Bialynia wrote:
Sony bought out Ericsson in SE, I don't know why people think the actual design teams and development will switch somewhere else. It's a name and partial ownership change, SE designed and Sony designed is the same thing.
No one said the development or teams are changing. And im almost certain Sony didnt buy out Ericssons share just to continue making handsets which are behind the competition.
Yes, its an ownership change, so that means Sony are now in complete control. Whether its with the current development teams or new ones, they have the last say.
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Posted: 2012-01-19 07:04:15
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SONY will obviously Join the Japanese Team[Tablet+Walkman] with rest of the X-Sony Ericsson Mobile Team.they need Western and eastern knowledge.
100% sure we will see some Super SmartPhones in another 6 months. Its stupid to Believe that SONY will take forever to fight the Specs race ..
SONY is like Microsoft with win phone 7 ..Sure MSFT came last with Mob OS but Win phone 7 is turning out to be the 3rd best OS and is going to stay.the same way Sony will also become in 10-12 months and soon will be in top 3
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Posted: 2012-01-19 07:51:41
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On 2012-01-19 08:23:24, aurelius wrote:
On 2012-01-19 07:04:15, >500 wrote:
On 2012-01-19 03:40:47, Bialynia wrote:
Sony bought out Ericsson in SE, I don't know why people think the actual design teams and development will switch somewhere else. It's a name and partial ownership change, SE designed and Sony designed is the same thing.
No one said the development or teams are changing. And im almost certain Sony didnt buy out Ericssons share just to continue making handsets which are behind the competition.
Yes, its an ownership change, so that means Sony are now in complete control. Whether its with the current development teams or new ones, they have the last say.
Yes, but still, SONY can't make phones! They never could. Sony brings money, ideas and future technology that SE never had. Which I think is great!
Just a request - STOP ridiculing Sony like this as if you some personal vendetta with Sony!!!!
Sony can very well make the very best smartphone in the market right now if they want to and without any help from the "SE" employees. But just because they don't doesn't mean people start bashing them and not accept the simple fact that Sony Ericsson is no more and its all Sony now. So doesn't matter if its the old team working on phones that does not take away anything from the fact that they are all SONY employees now and everything that they do, they do so under SONY.
So stop pretending as if Sony and Sony Ericsson are two different entities now and Sony is nothing but a stupid old man giving food and shelter to a young man. Sony Mobile Communications is all Sony. Whatever they do, whatever they come up with belongs to Sony from now on. I don't see what's so difficult in accepting this.
So please stop with the Sony hatred already!!!
All the phones that we are going to see this year are going to be SONY phones, developed by SONY employees (ex
employees + new) So I don't see how your statement will hold true. Sony IS going to make phones and great phones at that.
And I am pretty sure this year it won't be Samsung that will have the best Android smartphone of the year like last 2 years (Galaxy S 2010, Galaxy S II -2011). The Mint will surely take that crown this year
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Nice Article on Sony Mobile Communications + interview with Bert Nordberg. Two key statements he made
http://www.channel3000.com/money/30233748/detail.html
*The Xperia Ion will be Sony's flagship phone for the time being, but it is still a Sony Ericsson product, Nordberg said, even though it doesn't have Ericsson's name on it.
The first true Sony phone is expected to debut later this year"
*My view since I joined 2 1/2 years ago is that it's always been a Sony company," Nordberg said.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-01-19 08:31 ]
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Posted: 2012-01-19 09:19:51
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maybe you were meant to say Ericsson cant make phones @aurelius? It come across like you were having a go at sony
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Posted: 2012-01-19 15:33:46
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I read somewhere that we were able to use the Viera thing from Panasonic and Anynet+ from Samsung and the one from Sony TVs to control the Xperia Arc/S on TV, Gallery and such. Anyone knows if it will be possible to do using a Samsung TV with Anynet+ feature? (I have one, just to make sure).
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Posted: 2012-01-19 16:24:23
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On 2012-01-19 09:19:51, randomuser wrote:
On 2012-01-19 08:23:24, aurelius wrote:
On 2012-01-19 07:04:15, >500 wrote:
On 2012-01-19 03:40:47, Bialynia wrote:
Sony bought out Ericsson in SE, I don't know why people think the actual design teams and development will switch somewhere else. It's a name and partial ownership change, SE designed and Sony designed is the same thing.
No one said the development or teams are changing. And im almost certain Sony didnt buy out Ericssons share just to continue making handsets which are behind the competition.
Yes, its an ownership change, so that means Sony are now in complete control. Whether its with the current development teams or new ones, they have the last say.
Yes, but still, SONY can't make phones! They never could. Sony brings money, ideas and future technology that SE never had. Which I think is great!
Just a request - STOP ridiculing Sony like this as if you some personal vendetta with Sony!!!!
Sony can very well make the very best smartphone in the market right now if they want to and without any help from the "SE" employees. But just because they don't doesn't mean people start bashing them and not accept the simple fact that Sony Ericsson is no more and its all Sony now. So doesn't matter if its the old team working on phones that does not take away anything from the fact that they are all SONY employees now and everything that they do, they do so under SONY.
So stop pretending as if Sony and Sony Ericsson are two different entities now and Sony is nothing but a stupid old man giving food and shelter to a young man. Sony Mobile Communications is all Sony. Whatever they do, whatever they come up with belongs to Sony from now on. I don't see what's so difficult in accepting this.
So please stop with the Sony hatred already!!!
All the phones that we are going to see this year are going to be SONY phones, developed by SONY employees (ex
employees + new) So I don't see how your statement will hold true. Sony IS going to make phones and great phones at that.
And I am pretty sure this year it won't be Samsung that will have the best Android smartphone of the year like last 2 years (Galaxy S 2010, Galaxy S II -2011). The Mint will surely take that crown this year
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Nice Article on Sony Mobile Communications + interview with Bert Nordberg. Two key statements he made
http://www.channel3000.com/money/30233748/detail.html
*The Xperia Ion will be Sony's flagship phone for the time being, but it is still a Sony Ericsson product, Nordberg said, even though it doesn't have Ericsson's name on it.
The first true Sony phone is expected to debut later this year"
*My view since I joined 2 1/2 years ago is that it's always been a Sony company," Nordberg said.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-01-19 08:31 ]
You left out the second part of the same line. It gives different meaning to the statement.
"My view since I joined 2 1/2 years ago is that it's always been a Sony company," Nordberg said. "It's very hard, I think, to survive as a mobile hardware-only company."
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Posted: 2012-01-19 18:01:18
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"Sony Ericsson saw a dip in both sales volume and value in Q4, which resulted in a net loss of €207 million. The company only shipped 9 million phones, compared to 11.2 million in Q4 of 2010 and 9.5 million in Q3 of 2010.
As a result of the poor performance in what's usually the most profitable quarter of the year, Sony Ericsson ended the year with a net loss €247. Only 34.4 million Sony Ericsson handset found their new owner in 2011, compared to 43.1 million in 2010."
Source: GsmArena.com
So sony is going down... down.. down..
Bert Nordberg should read this topic and should immediately do what fans want here... If the sony mobile team will do anything else and if our opinions does not count, sony will perish.
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Posted: 2012-01-19 21:11:32
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Sony can do something Sony Ericsson couldn't - spread the risk. They will not be very much concerned about their losses in the mobile communications segment as long as other markets (TVs etc) are profitable.
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Posted: 2012-01-19 21:17:27
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On 2012-01-18 23:58:45, admad wrote:
Well, all Sony needs to do is put xenon flash and better dual-core chipset (rest of specifications just like Xperia S), and we have a bestseller
It\\'s not so hard. But I\\'m afraid they will go for stupid quad-core race. (While it was stupid to got with single-core Arc, it\\'s even more stupid to go with quad-core phone -.-, I mean, powerfull Notebooks are still dual-core, and they behave more than fine... )\\n
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Better chipset? Xenon flash. It would be more than 600 euro with a quite large size (so large that you would bring with you easier even a compact sized camera) that hardly could become a best-seller.
A good phone with mini's or live with Walkman's specs and size with a 8 mp camera and xenon flash for 250-350 euro would be a best-seller for sure.
And for my taste the SE's 2011 UI is much more friendly and eye-catching - I think they wouldn't have changed it, since the UI was one of their major strenght.
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Posted: 2012-01-19 23:29:00
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If you guys watched the Resident Evil Retribution trailer, there is a guy with an Xperia Arc S with the SONY logo on it. So does it mean that Arc will also be rebranded to Sony ?
Link to trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJZDtA7wt9o
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Posted: 2012-01-20 04:56:34
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