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On 2008-04-09 15:32:38, famous12 wrote:
Paris is Fugly
I think it doesnt deserve the hype it created for past 5 months,It just looks plain and looks like n95 black with few mm reduction.They could have bought this as a replacement for p990.But this looks Very late to market.I still hope it has some gr8 features.But again it seems it doesnt have 3.5mm jack or usb option, or jog dial.
There is so much inconsistency going on,they r just changing changing,without sticking to one layout.Creating confusion.
P990 4 way navigaton added
w960 back button changed
P1 navigation pad removed
Now Jog dial removed n Navigation pad added.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:19:37
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On 2008-04-09 16:08:33, dr_thug wrote:
@chombos1,
For a first,stylus is OUTDATED
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@bodeh6,i don't like the iphone's text input either..i prefer SE handwriting recognition or qwerty(full).
[ This Message was edited by: dr_thug on 2008-04-09 15:12 ]
excuse me but it is a feature to me.
meaning of outdated:
1- several phones from the low-mid range should have it.
2- an old feature that many companies stoped producing.
3- somthing that is replaced by a new feature (you may say the Touch UI but paris has it!!--- it is a cross-section between a touch UI and a non-TS UI and that is unique till now)
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:20:25
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On 2008-04-09 14:45:06, laurenke01 wrote:
Can't wait to see Paris's backside.
I am sure if you google it...you will find heaps of pictures of that.... LOL...
About the d-pad replacing the scrollwheel.....i really hope that the d-pad can also act as a scrolling mechanism....the fact that its circular i think it is quite possible (sorta like on the canon sd860...its got a d-pad but when u move ur finger around it...it scrolls through the picture...that would be really impressive)
i reckon if it had that...it would seal the deal for me
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:20:55
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On 2008-04-09 16:11:50, laurenke01 wrote:
Give the user as many options as possible and let the user decide how to operate it.
This would be a good idea for a business device.
I too don't think the flashy TouchUI-only concept would suit the average business user. This is probably why BlackBerrys look the way they do - functional.
I would rather see an advanced Walkman with that kind of tweaked multimedia interface.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:23:53
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On 2008-04-09 15:21:28, laurenke01 wrote:
About business/fun: The X1 is business-like because it looks like a P1 and has WM, but the P5, while it looks less business-like, is in the P-series, yet it has better specs. So which is business and which is fun? Or are they both business and fun simultaneously? Not that it really matters, I guess. I'm getting the P5 regardless of what kind of person it's aimed toward.
Do we know what connectivity specs P5 will have? X1 has *all of them*
The combo of Windows Mobile & full HSPA + WiFi, plus the way the thing looks and feels, makes X1 more "business class" at least to me. UIQ + vertical slider (instead of horizontal like X1) seems more like "hip, high-tech fun." May be an American thing though - seriously, we don't see UIQ much around here, and it really reminds me of Mac OS X (in a good way), which the media has trained us Yanks to equate with creativity and fun. Windows = boring business, Mac = creative fun (and status you pay extra for!).
Having gotten an X1 in my hands at CTIA last week, I was really impressed by it, but it definitely felt like a luxury item for an executive more than a fun media-oriented smartphone for a hip consumer. Depends on pricing, though.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:28:58
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Okay, here's a low quality mock-up how iParis would look like
We can't blame SE for not making Paris to fight for iPhone market share, it's their business decision. However, we still can sign a petition "SE, make an iPhone competitor NOW!", right?
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:30:42
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Confirmed P5i screen: 2.6 QVGA, 262K
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:31:22
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On 2008-04-09 16:31:22, Homme wrote:
Confirmed P5i screen: 2.6 QVGA, 262K
Source
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:33:49
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On 2008-04-09 16:05:37, bodeh6 wrote:
Dr. Thug the only other phones that can compete feature wise with Paris are N95/N96 and N82. Paris is actually better in several ways compared to those phones. It is hardly out of date and will remain current for 2+ years just like the original N95 did. So what if it doesn't have a huge screen with finger optimized UI? iPhone is more media player then phone. Don't even start me on that god awful on screen keyboard.
Dr. Thug makes a huge point when it comes to selling this thing to consumers, though. Phone geeks look at specs first. General consumers - or at least in the US, where SE is trying to make a push - really look at the overall experience of using the thing before they look at specs.
Thug is right on the money re: why iPhone is so popular. The user experience is amazing - WAY above any other high-end phone on the market right now - for the average consumer. The multitouch screen is just head and shoulders above any other touchscreen out there, and the UI is really optimized for it.
Me, I'm tired of the lousy camera and a few other things it's missing. But lots of folks who've never used anything besides a "free with contract phone" (in the US that generally means a shite phone) are drooling all over iPhone and are spending actual money on a cell phone for the first time because of it.
For these folks - and for me, honestly, for awhile - flicking a finger across the screen, browsing the Web on Safari, and looking at your photo album on the pretty display vastly outweigh the lousy camera, lack of 3G, or mediocre phone performance.
Don't under-estimate the value of user experience as phones become more and more like mobile media players & Internet terminals. User experience will drive mainstream sales in the next few years, no doubt.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:34:14
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@homme
sad.... if true.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:34:29
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