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B@RTje Posts: 143

Where did you test the p800 in holland?
what city is SE ?? i can't find it..

than i'll go and test it to
or is that not possible or something?
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Posted: 2002-09-04 16:48:00
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Hemmik Posts: 49

I don't think you can just go and test it at SE, it's in Badhoevedorp. I went there with my work, but I don't think it's for the public..
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Posted: 2002-09-04 16:59:00
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Mithrandir Posts: 9

Well jb I think you have a point. Maybe im stupid. And believe me, no one in this forum would argue bout that. So Im gonna end that stupidity right now.... I promise.

But first, pardon my less eloquent rendition of your remark.

"You're drunk. I'm stupid. You can sober up. I can quit arguing with a drunk"
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Posted: 2002-09-04 18:48:00
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cam1701 Posts: 56

Can i just say pinolo77 i think you are spot on. I here stories that SE might close down next year if sales do not get better. Well i think they only have themselves to blame. SE seem to be making a few specialist phone models not the wide range tha Nokia make. Also becuase there phones are so cutting edge it takes them much longer to get them to the market.

I can see no input from Sony in the P800 at all. I own two sony laptops and a sony walkman and they all work together perfectly. Do not get me wrong i love SE but they need to get there act together or they will disappear for good.

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Posted: 2002-09-04 20:17:00
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pinolo77 Posts: 390

Dear jb. I know things are more complicated and I also happen to know the concept of flag product (don't know how to translate it exactly). Don't get me wrong. I just wanted to point out what seems to be the main problem SE is facing. And a part from Brand I also talked about consumer electronics network. Of course we could do a list of all things that are or might be wrong in SE. But it was not what I wanted to do.

Just wanted to be sure you got the point...
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Posted: 2002-09-05 01:46:00
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sinop1985 Posts: 62

Hello

Some people (at Ebay) offered me a p800 for 300 USD without contract, should I buy it or are they skammers? Are this phones prototypes and what is the differences between prototype and the normal?

Please help
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Posted: 2002-09-06 08:39:00
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Freak Posts: 349

Quote:
On 2002-09-06 08:39, sinop1985 wrote:
Hello

Some people (at Ebay) offered me a p800 for 300 USD without contract, should I buy it or are they skammers? Are this phones prototypes and what is the differences between prototype and the normal?

Please help


THEY ARE SKAMMERS, I KNOW, I HAVE ALREDY BEEN FOOLED!
STAY AWAY FROM THEM!
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Posted: 2002-09-06 10:17:00
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bjarne1 Posts: 117

All i can say is that p800 will be the best phone, for whose who have use for a pda.
T300 will be SE's no 1 selling phone.

Its going to sell despite its design. Nokia dont have a competitor to it, panasonic and others do. Maybe SE will get 8-9% of the market, but the most importand thing is will they make money. The margin on t300 is not known. They are making good money on t68, but the volumes are to small. The next thing is making a t68 folower which got it all, and not bigger than t68. I wouldn't wanna trade my t300 for a t68i.
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Posted: 2002-10-08 03:15:00
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MrSavoy Posts: 267

I love my T68 but I would like to see SE make their next T68(ish) phone with all the features of the T68 plus: larger memory, better screen resoultion(more colors), java, Polyphonic ring tones if they can do that and keep the same size and price same or less. They would end up gaining a hughe piece of the market. I love my T68, so IMO all they have to do it make it a little more advanced and keep the size the same and if possible through volum selling lower the price. You would see them sell a few million phones. Thats my opinion.

The P800 is a truly amazing kick ass device and instead of buying the T68 I would have waited for the P800, but I knew it would be hughe and I didnt want that. Phones the size of the T68 are what I love.

So SE make a new T68 for next spring only better and I WILL BUY IT!!
As well as alot of you guys I am sure!:)

-Savoy
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Posted: 2002-10-08 03:56:00
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ShibbyLicious Posts: 290

er guys - av i missed summet here

a)the guy who said he can see no sony input on the p800, r u bein sarcy. it has sonys jog dial, it has sonys design, it has sonys sw applications style, it has sonys ok and clear buttons, it has ultimedia galore in the go create style of sony !! it does not have ericsson design, nor an ericsson styled menu, nor ericsson button layout !!

the genius of SE is that ericsson can manufacture a top nothc phone - sony can design and market a top notch consumer electronics product !!

b) pilino (soz wateva ya name is) erm u sed this : The situation is critical, but that is Sony's fault. The make movies, cameras, and Vaio notebooks. Question: how many Vaio have bluetooth built in? One! And how many cameras have bluetooth? Maybe two.
Sony knew they where joining venture with ericsson but dind't do any effort to insert it in a network of home electronics or something.

Give them time? They had a year now to do it, and in consumer electronics a year is an eternity... Seriously, with which Sony device will you be able to operate your P-800 easily and smoothly? NONE.
That could have been the source of advantage, the key to success. But Sony failed to bring its brand name to SonyEricsson.

wtf !??! wat country u from >!!>

there are now 4 vaio's wiv built in bluettoth, there are 6 video cameras wiv built in bluetooth, and its creeping to 10 didgital still cameras that have built in bluetooth

u seem 2 b tryin 2 say there is no connectiuvity between sony and se products, yet the p800 uses memory stick which is in everything sony - even aibo's arse has a memory stick

it seems this forum topic has lowered in2 anarchy wiv peeps either wantin se's kids or wantin 2 kill se

se is a good company - we all are aware though their bark is worse than their bite in teh respect they got great things 2 shout about but their products are slow 2 come out and few and far between

nokia have little to offer people like us - peeps who want connectivity and options galore - they have phones to offer to peeps who want a spangly phone which looks good and is what their friends have, thats why nokia is so big, cos they not stupid.

they make good phones for everyone to use simply and cheaply.

se make the best phones for everyone to use but few to take full advantage of, a lil more pricey though

so in short

sony and se products are snuggled up in bed - se are makin the best phones and in some respects taking the industry forward

nokia r doin wat they do best knockin out phones left right n centre like theres no tomorrow all in pretty colours n keepin their cust base happy in doing so

but the bottom line is

the p800 is easily the way fwd for mobile phones and is/will be the benchmark. p800 = the full potential and boundaries reached by 2.5G

thats my thoughts, please all comment but dont bitch cos no one is right and no one is wrong - its a forum for opinions !!

in the meantime relax here
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Posted: 2002-10-08 12:38:00
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