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Guess it wont...
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Posted: 2007-06-24 21:50:18
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On 2007-06-24 21:42:16, themarques wrote:
At some time before Adam and Eve were created, there was a war in heaven. An angel named Lucifer led one third of the angels in a rebellion against God, and tried to exalt his throne above God's throne(Isa. 14:12-15, Ezek. 28:12-17, Rev. 12:4, 7-9). They were kicked out of heaven and are now on earth, attempting to lead people away from Jesus Christ. Lucifer is now known as Satan, and the fallen angels are now called demons (Luke 10:17-20). Demonic Activities Listed below are some things demons are capable of doing. This doesn't mean that everything listed below is caused by a demon. For example, most dumbness is caused through accidents and birth defects, but Mark 9:17, 25 says demons can also cause it.
Dumbness--Mark 9:17,25, Matt. 9:32-33, 12:22
Deafness--Mark 9:25 Convulsions--Mark 9:18,20,26
Blindness--Matt. 12:22
Torment--Matt. 15:22, Mark 5:4-7
Tempt--1 Thess. 3:5, Luke 4:2
Deceive--2 Thess. 2:9-10, 2 Cor. 11:3
Preach another gospel--2 Cor. 11:3-4, Gal. 1:6-8
Suicide--Matt. 17:15, Mark 9:22
Self-affliction--Mark 5:5
Oppression--Acts 10:38
Attack Christians--Eph. 6:12
Attempts to murder people--1 Sam. 18:10-11
Insanity--Matt. 17:15, Mark 5:1-15
--Rom. 8:15, Luke 13:16
Crippling--Luke 13:11-16 (bound by a demon for 18 years)
Inhabit (possess) people-Luke 11:24-26, Mark 5:1-15, 9:25
Plant thoughts in people's minds--Matt. 16:22-23, John 13:2
Remove the Word of God from people's minds--Mark 4:15
Sickness and disease--Luke 13:11, Job 2:7
Blindness to the truth--2 Cor. 4:3-4
Cause division in churches--Matt. 12:25-30
Cause division in households--Matt. 12:25-30
Cause natural disasters--Job 1:9-19
Hinder prayers--Dan. 10:10-13
Influence world leaders--1 Chron. 21:1
eh hem. Ok dude. This whole convosation is starting to slightly bore me. Right or wrong there are interpritations of all religion. Ie I dont believe you get sent to hell for iternity.
But any way this is just mainstreame
I think im gonna order an extra spicy Donner kebab! Weres that phone!?
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Posted: 2007-06-24 22:06:24
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Bloody hell... Who'd have thought this will make a flaming thread! Especially a religious one! Just to put one thing straight! I'm not religious! I do believe in some things, but hell and heaven is just some "something" for me. I do believe in paranormal things, but I know most of the times stuffs has a proper explanation. You know I've meet Uri Geller once and he did the thing front of my two eyes... It was a titanium ring!!! Anyway, what I know is, my girl definitely see something, which scare the shite out of me and I might think she is stupid if most of them hasn't happened with someone next to her having a same experience!
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Posted: 2007-06-24 23:10:53
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I wouldnt call it a flamming war we just discussing things thats all, we all alduts
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Posted: 2007-06-24 23:35:25
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On 2007-06-24 23:10:53, chrisfirst wrote:
Bloody hell... Who'd have thought this will make a flaming thread! Especially a religious one! Just to put one thing straight! I'm not religious! I do believe in some things, but hell and heaven is just some "something" for me. I do believe in paranormal things, but I know most of the times stuffs has a proper explanation. You know I've meet Uri Geller once and he did the thing front of my two eyes... It was a titanium ring!!! Anyway, what I know is, my girl definitely see something, which scare the shite out of me and I might think she is stupid if most of them hasn't happened with someone next to her having a same experience!
chris brother u gotta have a cool head...don lose it bro
is she back?
I guess i agree with what u said in a post..keep her close by and keep an eye on her..(guess u would like that anyway
) ...then if anything happens,u can decide for urself whether u need to go to a psychatrist(sp.) or a priest/medium..ok? hang in there fella!! Im praying for u and ur girl
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Posted: 2007-06-25 11:00:11
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chris, sorry i have only read the first page of this thread, but it really sounds more like this may be a voodoo put on her, do you know if she has fallen out badly with anyone before this started happening??
there are people in london the practice black magic and this 'art' can be very destructive. its possible if she has fallen out with anyone of african origin as this is an evil but suprisingly popular form of revenge in some areas of the world...
if this could be the case, it may be worth speaking to a voodoo priest.
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Posted: 2007-06-25 11:09:58
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@Chrisfirst
Any update fella. I have read the thread and without going into whether demons and evil exists or not I think the best thing to do is to keep an eye on her and spend a lot of time with her from now on.
If you do see anything abnormal go and seek help straight away. If this only happens when you're not in her presence then she is better off seeking help herself as only she know what is really going on.
The choking part is a bit frightening. Is she religious herself? She might benefit from paying a visit to a local minister.
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Posted: 2007-06-25 11:33:58
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@Goldenface: I agree 100%
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Posted: 2007-06-25 12:47:26
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Well, thank you guys for all the support and everything, I really appreciate it! Thanks god, nothing happened since and I hope nothing will, till friday when she's supposed to come back. We'll see how things, maybe I'll try to talk to her about it and we will decide where to go. She isn't religious and I don't think anyone had any reason to put any vodoo thing on her, especially cause she has no such friends or even anyone she might know from those regions. Anyway, she had this feeling, she might has a curse on her, but I did sent her to one of those gipsy people to find out what's wrong, but she said she can't see nothing. Usually they do the opposite, just to make people come back more and more times, so I think she was proper. So, we will see...
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Posted: 2007-06-25 13:49:26
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ok this thread burns!!
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Posted: 2007-06-25 13:50:18
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