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On 2007-08-25 04:16:48, Dextrr wrote:
On 2007-08-25 00:57:48, sunking101 wrote:
N95 slider fixed? You're having a laugh! My friend bought one LAST WEEK and the build quality is just as bad as the one I looked at a couple of months ago. The design & materials are exactly the same, how are they miraculously going to alter the build quality of the N95 without completely redesigning it??? It is built like a toy, end of. When Nokia start building the N-Series out of proper materials and to a decent standard I will have another look. Until then I'm a P1i user. NO, the build quality isn't perfect but it's ACCEPTABLE. The N95 isn't anywhere near acceptable to me. It's a crying shame because it's a great phone but in the casing of a cheap kid's pretend phone.
Is SE's super duper flagship "smartphone" P990i acceptable to you, sir? It sure has a solid feel and excellent quality materials, I'm not too sure about the software part or support?!
The N95's build quality is more than acceptable! It feels the same as my N73 which wasn't too shabby and served me well for almost a year.
I am eagerly looking forward for the BLACK N95 8gb, might be my next phone if the price is right!
I owned the N80 for 6 months. Dreadful build quality. I owned the N73 for 6 months. Dreadful build quality. I wanted the N95 real bad, researched it and went down to see one in the flesh - didn't buy it. Dreadful build quality. Now all three of these N-Series phones, on paper, were at the time/are great. All three let down by a toy-like build. Now either you don't mind the creaks/ wobbly sliders or you do. I'd say just less than 50% DO. They are more discerning. Some people are just happy to have a phone with great functions. I put build quality right up there as a no.1 priority. If it isn't built to my liking then I don't care what it looks like and what it does. If you think the creaking N95 with its truly horrid slide action and that the N73 with its cheap and thin plastics which creak and groan if you so much look at it are more than acceptable then I'd have to question how discerning you are. This goes beyond specs and features - the N73 is a cracking phone but it is let down, terminally, by the build quality.
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Posted: 2007-08-25 16:54:41
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@ sunking101
Yes, thats right. This is what I am talking about, the built quality. Its terrible on the N series, all of them. And even on the E series right now, just look at the E90
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[ This Message was edited by: Tail on 2007-08-25 16:00 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-25 16:59:27
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@Tail
Again start practicing what you preach as you are also just repeating the same thing again and again, i notice you have no valid response to my points and that what i am saying is wrong.
All you can do is try and shut me up by only saying that i repeat myself, but of course what else should i expect even you can't argue against the truth and just which part of i repeat it because they are still the same unresolved issues is just so hard for you to understand.
If SE fixed them i wouldn't have anything to say would i? but for now that's it post what ever you fell like saying as unless you insult me you just aren't worth bothering with and i shall just ignore your ramblings as worthless rubbish which they are. So just run away now like a scared little dog with your tail between your legs how apt your name is it really suits your lack of character and moral fibre.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-08-25 16:00 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-25 16:59:36
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As for you Dogmann, I just rest my case. You simply just cant understand. But please, keep on spamming on the Nokia vs SE and we will se how long it will last for you. No one will ever get you to understand the point I am saying. As for me, im done with you for now..... I just dont have the time
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Posted: 2007-08-25 17:04:54
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Oh please Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum get real you are just talking absolute rubbish now if these devices were any where near as bad as you make out they just wouldn't of sold in the numbers they do and Nokia would of gone out of business. Or do really think that anyone that doesn't buy an SE is that stupid. Just post away because the more rubbish you post the more ignorant you show you are. My N93 had the best build quality out of virtually any device i have owned, my N73 also had no problems and neither did my N95. My M600 on the other hand was the most horrid lump of plastic i have ever had the misfortune of owning and that's not even taking into account it's pathetic OS on release.
@Tail
Oh please just for once try and keep to your word and stop spamming my posts as every time i post it's you not me that follows me around and attacks what i say. That's what you are doing and it is getting very tiresome as besides constantly repeating yourself you don't actually post anything of any value to anyone all you do is try to stop me stating MO and that is never going to happen so give and go away.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-08-25 16:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-25 17:08:05
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On 2007-08-25 15:25:30, tenshi888 wrote:
Ok, the N95 has all that but since it only has 20mb of free RAM its TRULY obsolete. You can't even keep the music player running while surfing the web. The limited ram, the lack of qwerty keyboard, lousy build quality and the really poor battery life makes the N95 worse than obsolete, its basically a defective design. The P1i can have everything running and it won't crash. Now, if my P1i's camera does die, I don't know why it should, I will report on it and let everybody know. I'm just reporting facts, not speculation. There is nothing I just said that you cannot factually refute.
I dont have problem with music + web (unless the web page is huge) on my N95. This limitation in multi-task is very small price to pay compared to P1i missing BIG TIME features (like 5Mp, vga30fps, faster processor, gps etc etc).
And dont forget that P1i has some reliability problem (like its predecessor p990) like wifi, camera and software bugs.
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Posted: 2007-08-25 17:09:54
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But for crying out loud, this device are sold most for people reading the specs, AND you know this. They dont even tried the phone before bying. Is this something new to you? As the most users are doing. So what you are saying is just crap
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Posted: 2007-08-25 17:16:13
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On 2007-08-25 16:59:27, Tail wrote:
@ sunking101
Yes, thats right. This is what I am talking about, the built quality. Its terrible on the N series, all of them. And even on the E series right now, just look at the E90
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[ This Message was edited by: Tail on 2007-08-25 16:00 ]
actually, this time it is an exception bro, the e90 built quality is quite good compared to the rest of nokia lines.....it only looses to the great sirrocco
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Posted: 2007-08-25 17:21:45
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Well, even with its current faults, the P1i is still an excellent phone. Its not cutting edge but I think that's also why its so stable and everything pretty much works. I don't have any problems with the wifi but it is B-spec and it really should be G-spec these days, the camera is ok but not that great-- I'm hoping a firmware update will improve it.
Whether its Nokia or SE I think once they put in anything cutting edge we can expect to be beta testers as the pace of development and pressure to one-up each other really doesn't leave much room or time for them to build it up to a stable point and release it as it should. The e61 and e61i are good examples of this, its not cutting edge but they are excellent phones and very stable. Nokia could have put in the latest N series music player into it but it would have eaten up available RAM and render it less stable so they didn't. Now the E90 has a mix of the features of the N series and the E series but it also has 128mb RAM and it was released a few months later so they had more time to develop it. Obviously Nokia can produce well built phones like the E series but strangely enough the N series is just not of the same level.
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Posted: 2007-08-25 17:31:31
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On 2007-08-24 06:53:03, tenshi888 wrote:
(...)You can't even just properly copy and paste in most instances, like in received messages, web pages.
...what? And I thought the p1 sucked because I couldn't paste too much because of some limitation on the working stack..
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Posted: 2007-08-25 18:17:16
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