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I don't think it's the people who are confused. Nokia WILL control Symbian and UIQ IS dead. Is it so hard to understand this?
It looks like we have 2 years before any device based on this joint platform can appear. Nokia may be the one providing the bulk of the cash but let's not forget that they are getting touch screen technology in return, so it may be a fair bargain.
If SE spends these 2 years getting up to date on technology, they may have a fighting chance with their new devices.
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Posted: 2008-06-24 15:35:04
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@Apolloa and Ares

Oh please all i asked was for the SE fans to stop the hate and just because a few deluded SE fans like you think i hate SE and UIQ doesn't make it true, far from it is true.

It really would be nice if some could grow up and stop seeing any criticism of SE or UIQ as always equating to hate. The only ones full of hate are you just wake and face the facts SE are just no longer the great company they once were. As proved by their actions of late and the fact they have now dropped to 5th. Try looking up constructive criticism in a dictionary.


@Prom1

Thanks for being the voice of reason.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-06-24 18:15 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-24 15:54:36
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Nokia WON'T control Symbian, can you read? It is giving control to the non profit Symbian company being setup. As I have already said, S60 is dead also in that case, both systems will be changed to whatever the new Symbian OS turns out to be, the UIQ interface technology will be used and implemented as it say's, all Symbian tech will be used. Not just and only S60.

@Prom1

Point 1:
My understanding is the Symbian OS is the same on all devices. The UIQ or S60 interfaces are the difference. It is still the same OS underneath. Programmes have to be written differently to run on touchscreen or push button devices which is why one won't run on all. It doesn't matter how deep you think UIQ or S60 goes, the base OS is the same Symbian, all the plug ins and widgets you go on about are bolt on's to that base OS. Unless someone who programmes Symbian directly can say otherwise.

Point 2:
You didn't read my posts did you? I said 'The only Linux based phones Motorola have launched to my knowledge are NON smart phones, hence a different market and irelevent to the argument relating to Symbian. I KNOW the new Razr's etc feature the new non smart phone Linux OS hence why I said it.

Point 3, @Dogmann also:
Yes there is reason for name calling, some of the comments on here lately are stupid, pure and simple SE hate. Bitching and moaning case SE can't make what you want. Fine go somewhere else then and buy another phone. I would go as far to say some comments posted on here are pure trolling just to entice arguments or spiteful replies for fun.
This site has people on here that work for SE, they have leaked info, white papers, photo's before anywhere else gets them, yet some posters on here attack them, that just say's trolling to me and it's being done by the same people every time no matter what is being said. I have yet to see the usual suspects recently say anything positive about SE or UIQ so what do you expect people to think?

[ This Message was edited by: apolloa on 2008-06-24 15:04 ]

[ This Message was edited by: apolloa on 2008-06-24 15:06 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-24 16:02:26
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@Dogmann: While I agree with you on the points you make, I think what they were talking about was that you told the SE fans to stop the Nokia hate (which is fair enough), while the last few pages have been full of Nokia fans bringing the SE hate.

Maybe, to be fair, you should have said "everybody stop the hate." Because come on, some of us are whining and arguing like little children here.
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Posted: 2008-06-24 16:05:34
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To make things clear, from the whitepaper



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Posted: 2008-06-24 17:13:40
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I should add UIQ3 is ALSO Symbian V9...so there will be some compability ALSO

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[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2008-06-24 16:21 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-24 17:20:22
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Yeah, more compatibility would be great . For example, the oportunity to run S60 application on our UIQ3 phones
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Posted: 2008-06-24 17:51:52
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Ares, give it up. In practice there's no such thing as "some" compatibilty - this future platform will either be backwards UIQ compatible or not. It's quite clear the answer is "not".

By your argument, the average S60 app is also "slightly" compatible with UIQ. How many do you have installed on your P1?
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Posted: 2008-06-24 18:02:53
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No...its just a fact...there´s no 100% certainty that actual s60 v3 apps will be directly compatible in the new plaform either

Read what Simon Judge says

http://www.google.com/reader/view/#overview-page

Do you copy now????



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[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2008-06-24 17:11 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-24 18:10:35
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So, basically you're saying that the Symbian Foundation is lying when they say "The Symbian Foundation platform will offer both exciting possibilities for the future but also compatibility with the past - to Symbian OS v9 and S60 3rd edition."?

Yeah, rather believe some random blogger speculating around...
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Posted: 2008-06-24 18:21:15
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