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Your argument has totally fallen apart as I do indeed own a Satio, and have done since December and has since then been my primary phone. I only suggested you look at youtube videos to back up my argument as I am (obviously) not going to visit you to show my Satio.
You repeat the same point several times yet fail to bring-up any of my points that I made, clearly you agree but would hate to admit it, why else would you bring-up the same point? I suggest you read my initial post again and try to come up with an argument for each point, then again that would be a waste of time, as it would be impossible to do so as all my points are indeed correct.
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Posted: 2010-06-23 17:59:40
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@jackau
Se don't have to do anything, if you bought the product under the illusion that they would add new features then that is your problem as there is little substance to back this claim up.
Never did it say anywhere that SE would update the Satio with new features.[ This Message was edited by: 10123 on 2010-06-23 17:06 ]
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Posted: 2010-06-23 18:05:19
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@ basithz
Well clearly they have a faulty unit, send the phone to SE for repair as I and many others do not have this issue.
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Posted: 2010-06-23 18:09:05
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well never mind new features or improvements to existing features - since the last update my Satio will not play recorded video without stuttering and pausing, it's quite embarrassing actually as the playback is unwatchable, don;t forget these people are getting exposure to a high end SE device that is supposed to be all singing and dancing, I just want my Satio to work as intended if they throw in a few improvments well and good..................but get it fixed please.
I have owned SE phones for the last 14 years, if this is not fixed "and quickly" it will be the last SE device I will ever have, I will also tell all my friends to stay away from them, now how many times have you read that here ??
[ This Message was edited by: gharknes1 on 2010-06-23 18:54 ]
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Posted: 2010-06-23 19:53:45
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Add me to the list of people who wont be buying an SE device again if Satio has been abandoned
I had a K850i before this and thought that was poorly serviced with support but this is disgusting
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Posted: 2010-06-23 21:20:29
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On 2010-06-23 17:59:40, 10123 wrote:
Your argument has totally fallen apart as I do indeed own a Satio, and have done since December and has since then been my primary phone. I only suggested you look at youtube videos to back up my argument as I am (obviously) not going to visit you to show my Satio.
You repeat the same point several times yet fail to bring-up any of my points that I made, clearly you agree but would hate to admit it, why else would you bring-up the same point? I suggest you read my initial post again and try to come up with an argument for each point, then again that would be a waste of time, as it would be impossible to do so as all my points are indeed correct.
My mistake, I stand corrected.
I still back up my stand as the Satio was a falsely advertised flagship product. You say flagships should not have to live up to everybody's standard, well SE shouldn't title it so. I don't agree with any of your points, all of these supposed happy Satio customers, where are they? Why are you so avidly backing SE? Did you not pay for your Satio? Do you work for them? I've only seen myself up to 10 people on this forum who said they throroughly enjoy their Satio with no problems, thats an extremely partial margin compared to the masses who have clearly stated their unhappiness with the product. All of my points was my explanation on why there are so many unhappy Satio customers, if they want to fix this OBVIOUS problem and bring back market share they need to do something to address these issues. Do you agree? Are there not a large majority of Satio owners being totally unsatisfied? Where are the many many happy Satio owners? show me or I have no reason to believe YOUR claims.
SE really has a thing or two, or a thousand to learn from Apple and HTC. Why is the Satio inferior to the Samsung Omnia HD? Now that is something I did not want to admit, I paid so much money for my Satio and despite all of the reviews, I couldn't admit that my Satio sucked, I have come to see the light and like all of the others that come forward, I am not returning to purchase another SE, does that make you happy?
10123, your argument is not against me, it is against every pissed off Satio owner on these forums and around the world, go pitch your pro Sony Ericsson campaign to them and see what responses you get. You have this corporate B.S. facade that I really am not liking right now. You're consistently pro-corporate reasoning and that everybody should've tested the Satio for a month before deciding to buy it. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Most people don't even get 5 minutes with it even if they had a chance to test it! is that enough time to check out every feature several times to see if it works? hell no. Your argument is broken in so many places, and one of them is work ethics. No, corporations are not required to have work ethics and morals to make profits but it is required to take opposing market share and gain return customers, something they're not understanding. So if you do work for SE, go tell your superiors something is rotten and it isn't the phones.
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Posted: 2010-06-23 21:42:29
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On 2010-06-23 18:05:19, 10123 wrote:
@jackau
Se don't have to do anything, if you bought the product under the illusion that they would add new features then that is your problem as there is little substance to back this claim up.
Never did it say anywhere that SE would update the Satio with new features.
[ This Message was edited by: 10123 on 2010-06-23 17:06 ]
Another horrible example of what mentality a corporation shouldn't have. You're obviously in the wrong here and any intelligent and educated person can and will tell you the same thing. You attempt to make it seem like any updates and improvements after the initial launch of the Satio is a favor to us. Is this a joke? I can understand this mentality for entry level phones that are only used for basic functions like calling and texting but not for premium flagship smartphones that launched with flaws among flaws.
Remember when the Satio first launched guys?
NO FB app like promised, that is one thing that needed an update to fix. Wait a minute, I thought you said SE didn't have to do this? no...they advertised it and didn't deliver, just like so many other failure flaws in the Satio.
I encourage you to continue your same argument but it is very apparent in the end how many unhappy customers there are.
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Posted: 2010-06-23 21:52:48
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On 2010-06-23 19:53:45, gharknes1 wrote:
well never mind new features or improvements to existing features - since the last update my Satio will not play recorded video without stuttering and pausing, it's quite embarrassing actually as the playback is unwatchable, don;t forget these people are getting exposure to a high end SE device that is supposed to be all singing and dancing, I just want my Satio to work as intended if they throw in a few improvments well and good..................but get it fixed please.
I have owned SE phones for the last 14 years,
if this is not fixed "and quickly" it will be the last SE device I will ever have, I will also tell all my friends to stay away from them, now how many times have you read that here ??
[ This Message was edited by: gharknes1 on 2010-06-23 18:54 ]
Exactly, all of us already know too well the Satio's failures. I've never felt so backstabbed by a tech company before, but then again, I've never experienced this many problems in any high tech product that I've bought.
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Posted: 2010-06-23 21:58:41
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Same thing they did with the P990i and got blows for it. They will never learn nor care. So many of us complained right after paying $500 for the p990 we realized all the deep flaws with it but it was to no avail.
knows that right after they put out a phone even a flawed one they are coming with another so they care less about it.
I posted so many times on here that phone and
lack of support and even regard for buyer of it.
The Satio and p990 are reasons why after entering the phone market just three years ago Apple is beating the hell out of companies like
They just make a good product without all those flaws. Apple uses the same OS and more or less the same hardware and don't add the same specs as other manufacturers but concentrate on putting out a good product.
I left
since the p990 and won't return unless they start beating out other manufacturers with user ease and satisfaction.
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Posted: 2010-06-23 22:53:07
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On 2010-06-23 22:53:07, skblakee wrote:
Same thing they did with the P990i and got blows for it. They will never learn nor care. So many of us complained right after paying $500 for the p990 we realized all the deep flaws with it but it was to no avail.
knows that right after they put out a phone even a flawed one they are coming with another so they care less about it.
I posted so many times on here that phone and
lack of support and even regard for buyer of it.
The Satio and p990 are reasons why after entering the phone market just three years ago Apple is beating the hell out of companies like
They just make a good product without all those flaws. Apple uses the same OS and more or less the same hardware and don't add the same specs as other manufacturers but concentrate on putting out a good product.
I left
since the p990 and won't return unless they start beating out other manufacturers with user ease and satisfaction.
I am no apple fan, I hate iOS's close platform. But
What Apple did right was to concentrate on making ONE product extremely appealing against its rivals, it does not improve on by releasing new models to fill up the range and fit every market segment. It has only one flagship, one well supported flagship, you want it, you pay the price for it, else move over.
APPLE'S first three generation of hardware and OS was less desirable as a phone more appealing as a basic internet and basic applications device, yet the new Upgrade OS and hardware brings it on par with the rest on telephony. It become something really appealing to customers.
SE appears to lost its ways on how to design a phone and support it, it has not learn the OLD ways no longer works, customers now demand continous proper support, most of those that brought high end products are no Rookies, they know what they want, satisify them can turn them in to free sales men for the company.
Continuous support on flagship products atleast shows a company's commitment to their own customer base, it is important PR!!!
SE, much like NOKIA has too many different software platform on their hands, the lack the resource to develop for every 1 of them. Since UQI was a version of Symbian, I falsely assume SE has experience in developing for Symbian based OS, S60 wouldn't be hard for them. But it turns out they are far worst than Nokia or even Samsung.
I recently beta tested a game for over a month, i seen first hand how a team of a dozen programmers improve the beta from lagging unplayable to smooth milestone initial release, even with wide ranging hardware platform of Windows OSes, a lot can be done. Satio / Vivaz share a very similar fixed hardware platform, dramatic improvements can be added given the effort, much like what iphone OS3 did to Os2, but clearly, SE has not put in such effort or anything close.
The Satio community has submitted tens of dozen of requests to SE, if SE is indeed working on something, they should already release a firmware by now, (come on, atleast fix that bloody T9 sentence fault, it is one of the most frustrating bug ever on ANY PHONE (minus iphone)!).
N8 release date fast approaching, if rumored pricing stands, Satio's days as alarm clock is fast approaching...
[ This Message was edited by: jackau on 2010-06-24 07:10 ]
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Posted: 2010-06-24 08:07:58
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