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skblakee Posts: > 500


On 2014-09-17 17:26:52, Wishmaster89 wrote:

@skblakee

About 64bit part, it seems that even though it really is 64bit, low level drivers expose only 32 bit mode and probably even after Android L update it won't use 64bit part. Have a look here, during this whole discussion Nebuchadnezzar made many valid points as to why it is rather unlikely that 5433 will run in 64bit mode.
Additional bit of information about 32bit mode for 5433 from Anandtech.
[ This Message was edited by: Wishmaster89 on 2014-09-17 16:28 ]



Yes even though the SoC is 64 bit they don't seem intent on activating it. I thought at first that the put it there and was holding on for Android L to come. Unfortunately not.
One of the things allowing the iPhone to be so fast with only a dual core, sub-2Ghz SoC is its 64 bit architecture. These Android flagships need to go 64 bit
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Posted: 2014-09-18 03:15:45
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500

Etaab

+1

skblakee

According to AnandTech, although 64bit seems disabled the CPU still takes advantage of the A53/A57 power and efficiency, hence why it runs at a max of 1.9GHz vs. 2.7GHz of the Snapdragon 805 and still be more powerful than the Snapdragon. Also remember the Exynos 5433 is a 20nm CPU not 28nm, so it still has a huge advantage over any other chip currently available and lets not forget the beastly Mali760 GPU.

Early benchmarks show that the Exynos Note 4 effortlessly beat the S805 variant, and got very close to the NVidia CPU, the only thing that helped the NVidia chip win was that it was running on a device with HD1080P display vs. the Exynos Note 4 with a 2K display.
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Posted: 2014-09-18 06:45:26
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Bonovox Posts: > 500

@etaab the problem with Sony is it seems to be ignoring or not doing so well in the US market.
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Posted: 2014-09-18 09:54:00
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Wishmaster89 Posts: 333

I didn't downplay any positive thing about the screen, read once again what I wrote and stop acting like you're defending your own dignity. I said it earlier, and I'll repeat it once more, I don't have problem with the fact that screen is as good as they say, I just raised concern about basing opinion about something you haven't even seen after reading only one review from site that in last 12 months always praised Samsung for it's screen (yes, when writing my first post I was talking only about what displaymate said). Not once have I said anything about phonearena, apart from the fact that I'd like to see how they find the screen. If you all like to jump on the happy train, by all means, I will try not to even come near this thread and shatter your perfect picture.

About CPU. Please tell me in which part have I said anything negative about it? I just posted information's about the fact that it runs in 32bit mode and not 64bit. If it's not sharing of findings I don't know what it is. In my short sentence, not even once, have I alluded that use of 32bit mode will hamper the performance. So what is your problem with me posting this information? Besides, this whole thing explains why Samsung didn't say anything about CPU used for 5433 in the first place.

And please etaab, stop bringing up Sony vs. Samsung in this thread! Have I even once said that Note 4 is crap and Sony rules or anything like that? For what it's worth I don't give a crap about Sony losing money and lowering their sales prognosis for the rest of the year. But I see that my presence here is not wanted.
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Posted: 2014-09-18 11:31:14
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badassmam Posts: > 500

I think people should judge screen quality with their own eyes and not any sort of website. I can't see any difference between 1080 and 2K on small screens, I keep my phone dim and I use less colourful themes so I don't need brightness and contrast to be that awesome. Like my Professor says to me, "people want to quantify everything and throw out numbers but how is that relevant to what is happening in real life? - you can learn so much more simply by observing and judging with your own eyes". He refers to cancer cells but it applies to everything. I have no doubt that the screen will be excellent but what's more important is how that affects battery life and so on, it's not something to argue about.

Secondly, I don't see any real difference between 32 and 64 bit today but I imagine that I will in the future.

Thirdly, Sony rules yeah! Sony ftw!
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Posted: 2014-09-18 12:10:08
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aussieland1 Posts: > 500

Wishmaster89

you seem to contradict yourself- first you say you didn't accuse displaymate of being biased and nw you are saying that you don't trust them because they are singing praises to Samsung. One last time: their finding is based on actual test not opinion- i understand that you suspect they are fudging the test (as childish as this may sound) but for the rest of us until a website comes out with new tests that are contracdicting the results from displaymate we are happy to take their findings. And no offense just trying to disprove a website without any factual evidence isn't bringing anything to the discussion- you are more than wellcome to post here links with new test results and i am pretty sure everyone here will appreciate it
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Posted: 2014-09-18 12:17:52
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Wishmaster89 Posts: 333

And how does my personal disbelief in their reviews equal accusations of bias? For all new know, it could be nothing more than a paid review, like that time when samsung paid students money to write bad things about HTC in Taiwan. And no, it doesn't equal accusations of bias.

I'd just rather wait for a review from someone who tests screens from different manufacturers all the time.
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Posted: 2014-09-18 12:59:10
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etaab Posts: > 500

I know what you're getting at, I do.

But, again as aussieland1 has just said its not about complaining about one websites findings when nobody else is coming forward with anything that disagrees with it. That's the point you're missing. We as consumers buy our favourite choice depending on such information and usually after we have tried the product in store prior to purchase. Tests like these, just like for example a camera sample test are used to help people make an informed decision.

And, if the Note 4 is anywhere near as good as the S5 where the screen is concerned, it'll be a winner hands down. The pure whites of the S5 screen make every other phone ive ever used look yellow or dull and yet it manages better battery life than any other phone ive seen in a long time.

So for now, the tests and samples that these lucky people on these websites that have had access to the hardware are only helping me decide whether it'll be worth me buying one.
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Posted: 2014-09-19 02:44:47
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kunalmothe Posts: 36

Hello,
In the month of September Samsung Galaxy 4 is a great attraction for each technology lover and hence for Samsung has introduce some serious sophisticated gadget in market with some great features.
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Posted: 2014-09-19 07:32:26
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Wishmaster89 Posts: 333

I'll be more than happy to admit that Note 4 truly has a great screen, but for now, don't blame me for being skeptical. Galaxy S5 is considered very uneven when it comes to color reproduction (based on measurements), by more than one website, so I'm not buying first positive opinions and prefer to wait for some more data
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Posted: 2014-09-19 08:55:47
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