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I think it all boils down to personal preference... and which site to believe?
Dxomark... had no problems with the White Balance, while Tom's Hardware did.
Here's their review:
http://venturebeat.com/2014/0[....]ems-say-toms-hardware-testers/
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/i[....]amera-problems,news-19585.html
(they're so confident of their test results that they submitted it to Apple for evaluation).
Also, did Dxo mention the video capabilities of the cameras? Did they point out the the ip6's didnt have 4K video? Or at what resolution did they test the photo stills of the cameras? Coz Ive been reading a lot of forums about this... some have said that the results are somewhat biased? They're saying that they (dxo) reduced the res of the S5 to 8mp to take the pics, instead of 16 . Some have said that they(dxo) didn't take into account the OS version of the phones (toms tested iphones with 7.1.2 as well). Some have said that they (dxo) didnt mention the other 'photo modes' that the S5 had... like real-time HDR, Dual Camera mode, Selective Focus, etc... I think the "whole camera experience" counts for a lot when one is saying that this is the "best" camera to have.
Anyway, Im sorry if I sound too 'nitpicky'..... its just that I aint putting too much weight on "tests" that dont mention specifics of their methodology. Which is why at the end of the day, I think it still boils down to personal preference.
cheers!
[ This Message was edited by: difenbaker on 2014-09-25 10:40 ]
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Posted: 2014-09-25 11:24:06
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Just like users were "holding the phone the wrong way" maybe they are pocketing it the wrong way now
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Posted: 2014-09-25 12:29:14
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On 2014-09-24 21:12:06, aussieland1 wrote:
To be fair other brands have e had quality control issues as well - Samsung included
Like what ? I don't recall Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Nokia, Sony, LG etc having such massive issues with their products.
No other company has ever had such humiliating issues that Apple has. Antennagate - as it was known, was and still is a massive issue for iPhone 4 owners. Apple and the moron formally known as Steve Jobs at the time tried to lie their way out of trouble and then tried to blame the users !!
iPhones, with their "i" prefix, are of lesser quality product than every other manufacturers products out there. They're vastly over priced and are made from components which have been unethically produced in factories which commit human right crimes to feed the rich countries lust for what they believe are ultra modern and stylish technology.
Yet these things keep happening, every year. You cannot compare a few software faults in a phones firmware which are easily fixed as such a big deal, it happens with every new phone usually from any company. As do bad batches, where sometimes some phones have a dodgy camera, screen or speakers. The issue with Apple comes from pure ignorance to quality control and testing. For me, failure of the hardware across the entire product line is a massive issue. If this bendgate issue is true, Apple once again deserve to lose sales. They will try to ignore the issue at first (predictably like last time), then they will admit the problem but put the fault with the phone owner. Then they will get tons of media backlash and quickly realise they need to recall / reinforce the phones with free cases.
I really cannot understand why people buy Apple products. After several years now of poor hardware design people still buy them. You still keep falling for the same crap they shovel your way and you keep happily swallowing it.
You'd literally have to be a complete moron to buy one.
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Posted: 2014-09-25 12:32:49
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btw someone i know in my locality just bought a iphone6+ for 1960 USD on grey market
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Posted: 2014-09-25 12:44:21
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On 2014-09-25 12:44:21, Ranjith wrote:
btw someone i know in my locality just bought a iphone6+ for 1960 USD on grey market
That's crazy! What would possess someone to buy an iphone for that insane amount of money?
cheers!
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Posted: 2014-09-25 14:11:46
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On 2014-09-25 14:11:46, difenbaker wrote:
On 2014-09-25 12:44:21, Ranjith wrote:
btw someone i know in my locality just bought a iphone6+ for 1960 USD on grey market
That's crazy! What would possess someone to buy an iphone for that insane amount of money?
cheers!
The "I have an iPhone,i am special" factor they think they posses i guess.
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Posted: 2014-09-25 14:42:53
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@admad..??? of course you can test, calculate or even test the phone in real world before you start to sell it.
Then tell me how can you predict a force that will act on a phone? In normal usage, phone shouldn't be suspected to bending. What happens is people wear tight jeans, some wear loose jeans. Some are fat, some not. After all, if you wear a phone in front pocket, the bending force shouldn't be high enough to consider. If you put a phone in back pocket and then sit, well, then it's your fault.
There is not standard force that phone should survive under bending. Of crouse we can assume high force, but then it would be impossible to achive this low thickness.
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Posted: 2014-09-25 19:37:55
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To be fair, I am after all a technology fan and not just an Apple hater, I would never put my phone in my back pocket and then sit on it, I wouldn't be worried about the phone bending but I would expect the screen to crack if I sat on it too quickly with any phone ive owned.
Whilst most manufacturers test their devices for such bending, flexing, knocks, drops, dunks in water etc, Apple clearly didn't expect the 6+ to be so vulnerable to such forces. They probably tested the phone and thought well nobody is likely to exert such a force on the phone and inevitably released it knowing this could happen.
I tested the phone this evening in my local phone store, I didn't like it. I didn't like the design compared to the normal size 6 and the screen wasn't very impressive, with far too large bezels at the top and bottom of the device.
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Posted: 2014-09-25 21:13:28
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Although I like the design I agree about the bezels - I think that on a such a large body they are showing even more
. Apple: iPhone 6 Plus Won't Bend Under Normal Use; Only 9 Complaints .
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Posted: 2014-09-25 22:05:30
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sigh... typical Apple response, useless.
When people complained about their iphones loosing reception when "held wrongly" - they (apple) showed off their acoustic and antenna labs to reporters. Did that solve the problem? Of course not, and people were still having antenna issues... yet Apple is smug in letting people know that "they've done their homework" .... and its the owners fault they're havin problems with their phone.
Same case here, so what if they supposedly "tested" their phones - does that solve the problem? Does it now instantly make the aluminum in their phone any harder or stiffer so it will not bend?
"The bottom line is that if you use enough force to bend an iPhone, or any phone, it's going to deform,"
That's very sneaky. Of course, if you use enough force to do 'this', then 'that' will happen. That's not the point... the point is, what is "enough"? - that is the issue here.
The problem is that the iPhone 6 seems to require much less force than previous iPhones to bend, because it has weak points introduced by that apple logo and that relocated lock button. These weak points are aggravated by stress when inside a pants pocket. It appears that it doesn't have to take a lot of force ...to bend the phone.
"The bottom line is that if you use enough force to bend an iPhone, or any phone, it's going to deform,"
Any phone, really? Did they actually test how resistant to bending the Note 3 is? Or the Moto X or the HTC One m8?
They also failed to point out... that once an iPhone is bent, it stays that way! UNLIKE other phones.
"The bottom line is that if you use enough force to bend an iPhone, or any phone, it's going to deform,"
The video footage shows an iPhone sitting on what looks like an iron platform with an arm moving up and down. How is that related? Where's the context? And they show that same footage like, four times in the clip. They "tested it 15,000 times???" ......Is that on a machine? Yet it only takes one guy to bend it with his bare hands? And not one of those 15,000 times did they try to put it their pockets and sit on it? Or have any documents to show that they tested outside of a lab?
Why only 9 complaints? Why bother to complain when there's no clear policy on whether your phone will be replaced or not. Who would want to be blacklisted from the store where they bought their phones? (yup, talked to a few.... apple store managers do keep a list of such customers..)
........ I just hate it when people fall for Apple's excuses, hook line and sinker. Like when "scuffgate" came out and the anodized finish of the 5 was clearly inferior. Apple said, that's "just normal". Really? They are, of course, completely UNAWARE that other aluminum anodized phones DO NOT scratch as easily.
Same excuse here, they say "it wont bend under normal use"... so putting it in pockets is not normal use then?
Anyway, this excuse from apple is just plain BS, imo. It fixes nothing. They might as well just say that "your pants are too tight! Buy another one!"
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[ This Message was edited by: difenbaker on 2014-09-26 08:39 ]
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Posted: 2014-09-26 03:13:42
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