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On 2007-06-20 20:40:56, darrengf wrote:
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5 Mpix CMOS sensor
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What's the discussion about the CMOS sensor? The K800/790 also had a CMOS sensor.
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http://www.chipworks.com/seam[....]ode12%3BIPR-0607-804&cw=detail
Sony Ericsson takes digital imaging in camera phones to new heights with the launch of the K800i and K790i phones, the first handsets to carry the Cyber-shot™ brand. These two new camera phones from Sony-Ericsson utilize the Sony IMX-018 3.2Mp CMOS Image Sensor.
The IMX-018 represents the 3rd CMOS image Sensor released onto the market in less than a year. Each of these Sensors has shown improvement in the design and manufacturing techniques employed.
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Posted: 2007-06-21 08:16:53
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And in K850, it is probably IMX-20 sensor:
http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol48/np_imx020.html
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Posted: 2007-06-21 11:37:35
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From that article, if that is indeed what is used in the K850, we can conclude that it does not make much breakthrough with image quality, except being able to take brighter images in low light situation versus the IMX-18. It has the same noise level at 100% (but this would equal to less noise when both are printed at the same size *correct me if I'm wrong*).
The main breakthrough rather would be for its smaller size more than anything else, with it being a 5 mega pixels sensor (IMX-20) but occupying a smaller area than the older 3.2 mega pixels counter part (IMX-18)
[ This Message was edited by: dxreaper on 2007-06-21 12:08 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-21 13:03:16
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IMX020..................sounds realy good
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* Diagonal 6.52 mm (Type 1/2.8.) 5.15M effective pixels
* High picture quality sensor for cellular phones
* The industry’s smallest 2.0 μm unit pixel
* 10-bit column A/D converter readout
* High-speed serial interface
* Extensive set of solutions
Smaller Pixels and Improved Picture Quality
Due to the strong desires for module miniaturization in the cameras included in cellular phones, it is necessary to reduce the pixel size when increasing the pixel count.
Faster Operation
The IMX020 adopts Sony’s unique column-parallel A/D conversion technique that is optimal for increasing operating speeds. Sony also introduced their unique two-channel data strobe type sub-LVDS serial interface, which allows applications to read out the 10 bits per pixel output at 864 Mbps (a pixel rate of 86.4 MHz). Despite the large number of pixels, 5M pixels, this allows the IMX020 top operate at 15 frame/s in progressive scan mode and to achieve the high speed of 120 frame/s in 1/8 decimation mode, which is equivalent to QVGA output mode.
Extensive Set of Solutions
To respond to our customer’s diverse needs, Sony provides solutions in a variety of forms as IMX020-related products.
• Independent sensor
• IU020 series (lens modules): sensor + optical system
• MCB990 series (camera modules): sensor + camera DSP + optical system
These lens and camera modules use a lens optimized for the IMX020 and achieve miniaturization, high resolution, and low shading.
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-06-21 12:19 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-21 13:11:33
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That sounds awesome....@ the guys whose using the proto, whats the sound quality like, as i need to choose between this and the w910...i like this more but sound is a huge factor to me?
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[ This Message was edited by: JC08 on 2007-06-21 12:22 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-21 13:19:14
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JC08.............when everything is done (software, adjustment of hardware), im convinced that the quality of the pics gone be awesome.
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-06-21 12:39 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-21 13:33:54
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On 2007-06-21 13:03:16, dxreaper wrote:
From that article, if that is indeed what is used in the K850, we can conclude that it does not make much breakthrough with image quality, except being able to take brighter images in low light situation versus the IMX-18. It has the same noise level at 100% (but this would equal to less noise when both are printed at the same size *correct me if I'm wrong*).
[ This Message was edited by: dxreaper on 2007-06-21 12:08 ]
Sensor is not too small, it is 1/2.8" which is actually bigger than some digital cameras with 1/3" sensor (for instance Canon A450), but it is very noisy in 100% view, that's true...
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Posted: 2007-06-21 13:38:28
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about the "noice" in full view, im conviced that
have some new "pic-profiles" who adjust, whitness, light, color, etc, so the pics looks "real" and beautiful.
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-06-21 12:45 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-21 13:42:51
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@ plankgatan, i was talking bout sound what do u know bout that?
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Posted: 2007-06-21 13:47:08
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On 2007-06-21 13:47:08, JC08 wrote:
@ plankgatan, i was talking bout sound what do u know bout that?
sometimes i misunderstand. what do you mean ?
my english failes sometimes
i thought you meant that the pics got noice(kind of "dirty" look) in full view !
he he...........sorry guys.
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-06-21 12:57 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-21 13:54:04
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