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Xperia P has an amazing screen. Where is the white magic Sony!? Seriously no phones with it this year so far :/
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Posted: 2013-04-20 17:04:38
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On 2013-04-20 17:04:38, motvikt wrote:
Xperia P has an amazing screen. Where is the white magic Sony!? Seriously no phones with it this year so far :/
Perhaps One sony will use it
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Posted: 2013-04-20 17:14:45
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On 2013-04-20 10:59:18, goldenface wrote:
I feel like I've been here for ever.
hahah! old man!
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Posted: 2013-04-20 18:20:30
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Bit OT, but this will hopefully explain why Sony messed up JB updates on 2012 devices. QUOTED FROM ZOMG
"Well here's the problem with updates.
Last year the JB updates for Xperia S/SL/Acro S/Ion, P/Go, J, T/TL/V/TX were planned for Q4 and then T/TL/V/TX would skip 4.2 and jump straight to 5.0, however this plan was made by SMC Lund. Since then SMC Tokyo who have absolutely zero expertise in this process began meddling in an effort to expand their influence and try and bring software development back "home" to Japan even though they are an unproven team with no experience and SMC Lund is basically the best OEM Android developer.
So Tokyo basically told Lund to prioritise the 4.2.1 update for Xperia Z/ZL over all the others and that they would handle the updates for 2012 Xperia phones except Xperia T/TL which was running on Krait like Z/ZL. So Lund delayed their T/TL 4.1.2 roll out by two months and got to work on the Z 4.2.1 update (now 4.2.2). They finished both projects on time, with T/TL/V getting JB in January and TX in March. The Z/ZL 4.2.2 update is finished and just sitting there doing f**k all right now. The problem is that Tokyo took over development of Xperia S/SL/Acro S/Ion and P/Go. They f**ked up. So Lund have had to step in and fix all of the problems, but head office says all phones must be on 4.1 before they start the 4.2 roll out, basically they are covering their own arses and forcing Lund not to release 4.2.2 earlier than Tokyo could get 4.1.2 out for their devices.
The worst part is that SMC Lund had a plan to get early 2012 devices updated by November and then EOL their support to lessen the 2013 load. With Tokyo's f**k ups now devices from over a year ago are having to be supported as an extra for Lund as well as development of software for upcoming devices (phablet is a big one taken over by Lund as it requires highly custom software for accurate pen input and multi-window apps etc...). This will lead to delays for 5.0 at Sony because Lund don't have the manpower and Tokyo don't have the competence. I know this for a fact because the 5.0 PDK has been delivered already but no devices have been moved over to the 5.0 stream even though Z/ZL were supposed to shift by now and T/TL/V/TX by the end of the month.
Basically the problems are internal company politics and Tokyo thinking they are better than Lund when it is clear that this is not true. It may be one day, but for now and the foreseeable future Lund is going to be the number one developer within Sony and Tokyo need to let them take the software lead and stop meddling. The best think Kaz and Suzuki did for Xperia was keep Lund open as the centre for software development, now they need to back Lund internally."
Funny how Sony (in this case, tokyo base) is alway f*cking up because of their pride and arrogance. Really need to change their attitude, they are no longer top of the game... :S
[ This Message was edited by: aamwng on 2013-04-20 17:34 ]
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Posted: 2013-04-20 18:30:52
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Classic sony
internal politics and fighting as usual. That also explains why Aurelius friend said there was a conflict behind the delays
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Posted: 2013-04-20 18:49:23
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On 2013-04-20 18:30:52, aamwng wrote:
Bit OT, but this will hopefully explain why Sony messed up JB updates on 2012 devices. QUOTED FROM ZOMG
"Well here's the problem with updates.
Last year the JB updates for Xperia S/SL/Acro S/Ion, P/Go, J, T/TL/V/TX were planned for Q4 and then T/TL/V/TX would skip 4.2 and jump straight to 5.0, however this plan was made by SMC Lund. Since then SMC Tokyo who have absolutely zero expertise in this process began meddling in an effort to expand their influence and try and bring software development back "home" to Japan even though they are an unproven team with no experience and SMC Lund is basically the best OEM Android developer.
So Tokyo basically told Lund to prioritise the 4.2.1 update for Xperia Z/ZL over all the others and that they would handle the updates for 2012 Xperia phones except Xperia T/TL which was running on Krait like Z/ZL. So Lund delayed their T/TL 4.1.2 roll out by two months and got to work on the Z 4.2.1 update (now 4.2.2). They finished both projects on time, with T/TL/V getting JB in January and TX in March. The Z/ZL 4.2.2 update is finished and just sitting there doing f**k all right now. The problem is that Tokyo took over development of Xperia S/SL/Acro S/Ion and P/Go. They f**ked up. So Lund have had to step in and fix all of the problems, but head office says all phones must be on 4.1 before they start the 4.2 roll out, basically they are covering their own arses and forcing Lund not to release 4.2.2 earlier than Tokyo could get 4.1.2 out for their devices.
The worst part is that SMC Lund had a plan to get early 2012 devices updated by November and then EOL their support to lessen the 2013 load. With Tokyo's f**k ups now devices from over a year ago are having to be supported as an extra for Lund as well as development of software for upcoming devices (phablet is a big one taken over by Lund as it requires highly custom software for accurate pen input and multi-window apps etc...). This will lead to delays for 5.0 at Sony because Lund don't have the manpower and Tokyo don't have the competence. I know this for a fact because the 5.0 PDK has been delivered already but no devices have been moved over to the 5.0 stream even though Z/ZL were supposed to shift by now and T/TL/V/TX by the end of the month.
Basically the problems are internal company politics and Tokyo thinking they are better than Lund when it is clear that this is not true. It may be one day, but for now and the foreseeable future Lund is going to be the number one developer within Sony and Tokyo need to let them take the software lead and stop meddling. The best think Kaz and Suzuki did for Xperia was keep Lund open as the centre for software development, now they need to back Lund internally."
Funny how Sony (in this case, tokyo base) is alway f*cking up because of their pride and arrogance. Really need to change their attitude, they are no longer top of the game... :S
[ This Message was edited by: aamwng on 2013-04-20 17:34 ]
SONY SHOULD STOP BEING ARROGANT PRICKS
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Posted: 2013-04-20 18:59:32
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Another missed opportunity.
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Posted: 2013-04-20 19:42:58
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If anyone remembers sonicstage from sony, then tokyo screwing up the firmware for the xperias is not a surprise. I will laugh if my galaxy S2, get's 4.2.2 before any sony device, even the Z, or even my 7.7 tablet which is ages old.
I do hope that the phablet ships with 5.0, because I feel the note 3 will ship with 5.0.
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Posted: 2013-04-20 20:12:06
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Can someone please give a link for forums about Xperia on neogaf. I just can find
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=543528
I'm using an 4 yo htc touch viva with outdated browser and I'm unable to browse the web properly.
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Posted: 2013-04-20 20:16:26
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Well, I hate to say it, but I was right once again! Just look at my signature! I wrote it an year ago, you blamed me for being a hater, but it seems I was once again ( as always ) the one who is right! It is the stupid f*ckin weird japanese Sony that f*cked up everything and destroyed Xperia's premium reputation that took so long for Sony Ericsson to build!
"Ericsson should quit" they said! "It'll get better" the said! - Bullsh*t! Not only it won't get better, but I'm sure it'll get even worse. Much worse! Remember my words, because my predictions seem to be more accurate than randomuser's fan dreams!
"The current Xperias are designed by the same team that created the 2011 Xperias" ( actually the last good Sony/Ericsson phones and the one I love so much ) - Bullsh*t! Just read the text.
"One Sony will be something amazing and a radical change and major step forward for Sony" - Bullsh*t! ZOMG said it with simple words - "Lund don't have the manpower and Tokyo don't have the competence" aka another big failure, as were S and Z.
If it wasn't Sony and their crew, full of idiots, taking only stupid decisions, Sony Ericsson would be in much better position now! Their marketing approach in 2011 was perfect and it's a shame for Sony for introducing once again the internal fights they were known for. They even planned moving the entire development to SMC Tokio, which will be a total disaster! Just imagine everything at Sony Mobile happening at the same speed as the development of Xperia S' JB update.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2013-04-20 20:10 ]
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Posted: 2013-04-20 20:25:36
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