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Right but at the same time there must be a clear strategy given by a maker which helps consumers to distinguish between differently targeted devices. So, I'm pretty curious what is the positioning of this rumoured device.
In the end, my usage of my device is based on what is given, not on hopes/rumours.
You know, I don't want to spend 1000$ on a highend phone and wake up 2 months later angry cos' much better solution appeared and I was wrong before! In this segment you don't change your phone every 3 months, if you REALLY use it. So, I hope SE will clear this with the announcement.
I also still think that Pseries means TOP of the SE house.
But what if Paris is NOT P??
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:36:40
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I'm beginning to wonder if all this confusion is indicative of this "storm." By now, it seems clear we're not dealing with one device. My definition of a storm would be Shiho (high-end A200/A250/whatever it is), BeiBei (mid-end UIQ), P3i (mid-high-end UIQ) and P5i (high-ultra-high-end UIQ).
Maybe all the conflicting reports are stemming from the fact there is a storm of phones coming and the reality may be that all of the specs we've heard are true--and that there really is no conflict because they're actually all different devices.
Regardless of what Paris is or isn't, there is something big coming. All this hype and anticipation isn't created if all SE is going to do is announce one phone with a QVGA display.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:53:49
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Doministry, i dont think this phone will be so expensive like older p series, it will folow the tendency of p1 IMO that was launched at a way lower price than p990
And the keyboard identifies it clearly like a p series device
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:55:33
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@ares
I see what you mean.
That's actually very sensible.
Although, I'd rather pay more and get more.
The latest picture shows a decent device IMO.
True, and also - May seems like a proper time to introduce next P (one year after P1...).
Probably, the next "shake" with UiQ 4.0 (or 3.4 rather??)
Anyway, the offcial announcement will probably clear this out....
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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:09:39
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On 2008-04-10 01:55:33, ares wrote:
And the keyboard identifies it clearly like a p series device
@ares, I know we disagree on this but the P1 keyboard was taken from the M600 and it's questionable how much the P1 represents the P series, in my view it's an improved M600. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just different.
Since users seem to be divided on the keyboard issue, SE should have a device that does not have a rocker style keyboard. I still find it easier to use the P990 keyboard with my 2 thumbs than use the P1 keyboard, what can I say
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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:12:07
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imo
w950 > w960 (walkman)
m600 > p1 (business)
p990 > P? (all in one flagship)
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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:22:37
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M series does not have cameras makbil...sorry
qwerty + camera = p series...
doministry, like i said, seven more uiq phones (at least), this is alot...who´s to say they wont announce more than one P series device...i am sure they will
just to go back a little, and to add to my statement...most of you that folow SE stuff know who is Eomer...he is a very well known industry insider...i posted this also on the UIQ is diying thread, but i suppose not everybody saw it:
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UIQ are rapidly expanding their headcount in Budapest to support their platform.
Motorola have been instrumental in driving new features into 3.3 and beyond.
Motorola have up to a dozen more UIQ products on the roadmap.
Their problem to date has been jumping UIQ/Symbian versions with every new phone which was, IMHO, foolish.
Anyway they will stop doing that with the release of the next tranche of handsets after Z10 - ie Texel, Skarven and others.
On top of that, you can expect SEMC to announce/ship several more handsets on UIQ this year on top of the modest efforts shown at WMC.
I would guess that 2008 will see announcement/shipment of between 7-10 handsets.
This was posted at m-r forums. You see...when i say seven devices i am being pessimistic. This info i also got from my source months ago, it has been also hinted by some UIQ people interviews, and in general all people with access to SE know it.
I also would like to quote what satsuma (another respected insider) said at my-symbian recently
But I believe the next generation of UIQ handsets from SEMC /qutransitioning to a new h/w platform should also be pretty special.
Again...note: new hardware platform...that is what is KEY in the new devices
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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:23:51
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i dont think the phone (paris) we've seen in the pic is the Px (p990 'proper' successor) It makes no sense at all!!! to put a smaller screen on the successor.
And since the p1 is going to be discontiued this September, its logical that the phone we are seeing is some sort of p1 successor. Announcement not too far off, and that would mean a release around the same time as the p1 being discontinued.
And its really annoying reading all of these complaints. Yes its a forum open for discussion, but come on, seriously, there must be a point where some people just stop complaining!

have announced some very decent offerings imho, both in the smartphone and non-smartphone sector. In regards to smartphones, you have the g700/g900, both of which will launch at very good prices imho. And the x1, what, not high end enough for people? Its one of the most feature rich phones on the market. well, not techincally on the market, but its specs are. And by the time its out, i dont think there will be many advancements in terms of specs/technologies in phones to come later this year. HSUPA (how many phones on the market, or how many phones announced have hsupa?), wifi, (w)vga screen/video, gps, etc.... we wont see too much more, will we now?
We are discussing mobile phones here, PHONES!!! I say it all the time, there are plenty of other '''MORE IMPORTANT''' things in life than phones!
We are 4 months into 2008, that leaves 8 (obviously) months for

to show you more high end devices, plenty of time, no? What we have seen so far, is more than sufficient, and there is plenty more to come.
Lastly........... i personally dont think the px (p5?) will be out until q4. i dont expect an announcement of the flagship p series until q3........
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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:31:03
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@ares, I know, that's why I called it an upgrade
It's ironic but the P990 is left as a unique device with respect to its features.
Now, wouldn't it be hilarious if SE surprised us all by announcing a P990 variant with 128 MB RAM

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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:31:54
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On 2008-04-10 02:31:03, >500 wrote:
i dont think the phone (paris) we've seen in the pic is the Px (p990 'proper' successor) It makes no sense at all!!! to put a smaller screen on the successor.
We have no proof that the screen is smaller, but there is pretty good evidence to suggest it's at least as big.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:34:40
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