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norbi_nw Posts: > 500

well i was referring to R3, because as you know R2 is current, so if a major release is released for Satio, it will change FW to R3 or R4.. Thats why i said unless R3 will be out, it wont be any big difference. Costing more than the vivaz i think it should have better features. Like a good software to go with the good camera. It is very slow, and very annoying to have FOCUS in the sub menu (and not on the homescreen in camera mode).. press button, press focus, sometimes i have to press 2x, select focus, and exit interface... Thats lame. I think they could have squeezed focus onto the screen between flash and shot mode... FFS focus is important and dynamic.. no time to press 100 buttons to change it.
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Posted: 2010-05-31 16:59:19
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altemyr Posts: > 500


On 2010-05-31 13:11:10, Lollylost100 wrote:
K800 is DB2020 while T700 is DB3150v2 that's why there is the revision difference. All three, Satio, Vivaz and Vivaz Pro, run the same system with the same stuff apart from homescreens and camera binaries.

I can agree that they are similar, and that they all run Symbian S60 v5, but they are not identical, and they don't run the same firmware. Currently, Vivaz runs R2CA024 and Satio R2AK006. From 'AK' to 'CA', there are quite a lot increments. Also, there are different threads on Esato for "new Satio FW release" and "New Vivaz Firmware Release", etc.
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Posted: 2010-06-02 14:22:03
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Lollylost100 Posts: 459


On 2010-06-02 14:22:03, altemyr wrote:
I can agree that they are similar, and that they all run Symbian S60 v5, but they are not identical, and they don't run the same firmware. Currently, Vivaz runs R2CA024 and Satio R2AK006. From 'AK' to 'CA', there are quite a lot increments. Also, there are different threads on Esato for "new Satio FW release" and "New Vivaz Firmware Release", etc.

http://ihack3r.blogspot.com/2010/03/vivaz-rom-inspected.html have a read.
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Posted: 2010-06-02 14:30:45
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norbi_nw Posts: > 500

what about AF in video? any chance to have that in Satio?
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Posted: 2010-06-02 18:03:37
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Lollylost100 Posts: 459

It said camera binaries are different. Camera includes video recording so the answer is no.
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Posted: 2010-06-02 18:13:21
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altemyr Posts: > 500


On 2010-06-02 18:13:21, Lollylost100 wrote:
It said camera binaries are different. Camera includes video recording so the answer is no.

It might as well be that the binaries for various functions in Vivaz and Satio actually are identical, but they are able to detect on which hardware they are running, and runs different branches inside the code, hence you will not see any difference if you try to extract code for the Vivaz and put on a Satio.

But still, there are different version numbers listed for the firmware for Satio vs. Vivaz
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Posted: 2010-06-03 10:54:37
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mazi292 Posts: 38

Hi ..

You know when it will be the new software Satio on the cent-europe?
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Posted: 2010-06-03 11:46:07
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mr versatile Posts: 120

Hi can someone tell me what is so different from the europe software to the asian software for the satio because its the same r2k but there is difinitly a difference and i am not talking language ....the asian sofware came with windows live already install on the asian software along with other little extra like the dictionary that disappeared when updated everything seem to be intact with the asian sofware..
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Posted: 2010-06-03 17:54:36
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norbi_nw Posts: > 500

Well you have asian language plus english. Thats all the difference i can think of.
Man i got angry today. This idiot smartphone doesnt even have a full office and pdf reader... both are trial on the phone. (well office is not tryal, but you need to buy it to edit documents). Had full on G900 a phone that was much cheaper, and the satio has nothing! how stupid!!! just like SE!
[ This Message was edited by: norbi_nw on 2010-06-03 18:15 ]

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Posted: 2010-06-03 19:15:02
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mr versatile Posts: 120

@norbi_nw
hmm well it s seem to be more stable to me but anyway i had to buy both office and adobe for my satio they ware working really well but to many application money have to spent on to get pleasure and leasure out of this phone after that price we all paid for it those thing suppose to be free! but angain the world and technology is out to drain people pocket .. i can not understand up to now what is the main reason for the vivaz when the satio is labeled as the ultimate mutimedia device why they just dont big up the satio and they will have a device very hard to beat but ..money money money these sons of a b@#$%es...FROM A 12 TO 8 MEGA PIXEL HOW SMART HOW SMART
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Posted: 2010-06-03 19:23:12
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