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On 2009-03-14 22:44:41, borisisinvin wrote:
@ doministry, no one here is questioning SE's design aesthetic. With out a doubt, beside maybe Apple, I'm of the sound opinion that Sony makes some of the best looking consumer electronics in the world. PERIOD. Given there pedigree, I would expect nothing less from SE. I, however, do have to question there design choices sometimes when they consciously make decisions that seriously impact a products usability and ergonomics. I've given up trying to use my X1's dpad for navigation with few exceptions (like when scrolling left to right with the phone vertical to skip tracks while in the music player). It's probably the worst solution I've seen in a long long time (next to one of there other solutions for one of there other phones) and makes me really wonder what the design team was thinking. Didn't they personally test it before hand? While I like the optical joystick, I think given the choice between that and a regular ergonomic dpad, I would have taken the latter. As is, the dpad's pretty unusable as a navigation tool, and that's fact.
What btw is constituted as functional crap? I'm just curious is all... I'm trying to quantify that response into something meaningful and intelligible and am having a really hard time doing so, please elaborate.
"Functional Crap" means like keyboards which are really hard to use (N78), or some cramped buttons placements.
As for X1, it is as koto stated. I find D-Pad/Optical combo just perfect,
just the best solution I had in my hands. None of the TS devices have it, it allows to navigate in every situation.
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Posted: 2009-03-15 17:19:29
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@ doministry, I would refer to SE's track record again to prove my point. Again, I think that if you look at SE's design choices over the years and there wares you'll see SE more often than not doing just what it is that you say Nokia has done... I think what you're saying about Nokia could more easily be applied to SE and most of there designs. We obviously agree to disagree on this topic, and no matter what either us say we'll never convince each other otherwise. I know what I know, and like to think that it's tempered by unbiased experience (former SE enthusiast who now sees the trees from the forest, and wants the best for his hard earned monies irregardless of brand), instead of being driven by blind brand zealotry. BTW, how many Nokia's have you used exclusively for an extended amount of time (like say 3 months or more), just out of curiosity?
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Posted: 2009-03-15 20:32:31
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On 2009-03-15 20:32:31, borisisinvin wrote:
@ doministry, I would refer to SE's track record again to prove my point. Again, I think that if you look at SE's design choices over the years and there wares you'll see SE more often than not doing just what it is that you say Nokia has done... I think what you're saying about Nokia could more easily be applied to SE and most of there designs. We obviously agree to disagree on this topic, and no matter what either us say we'll never convince each other otherwise. I know what I know, and like to think that it's tempered by unbiased experience (former SE enthusiast who now sees the trees from the forest, and wants the best for his hard earned monies irregardless of brand), instead of being driven by blind brand zealotry. BTW, how many Nokia's have you used exclusively for an extended amount of time (like say 3 months or more), just out of curiosity?
Yes I still disagree. After 3,5 years of extensive usage of 4 different Pseries as my pocket-computer, I was happy to buy X1. No fanship, just a pure search for the most suitable device, as for today you can only look for compromise - none of them is complete.
So the hardware usability of xperia made me even happier with this kind of devices. Whether if it's keyboard, screen, dpad, optical joy. I was thinking of it for a long time and considered many devices before purchase, it was hard to choose.
Trust me, it's one of the really few devices with ts with a variety of ways of operating. Just a TS without any more controls is a real step backwards (like Touch Pro 2).
About Nokia - I have no intention to say they're overally bad or whatever.
But I still see some of their designs as unbeatable examples of "form over usability". My sister even had this one with just a screen and a wheel, no keys etc.
Great design, crap to use. As well as mentioned N78. I touched it and this keyboard was extremely not convinient. There are many examples of that.. That's how I see it.
Which one did I use? Hahaha, that's actually funny: I owned/still use 1100/1101/1200/1208, and hell yeah - they're really ergonomic
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Posted: 2009-03-15 22:44:28
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Fair enough, and I can respect your honest preference. TBH it was really pleasant talking to you about it all anyways, and for once it was a refreshing change to not have the conversation/debate devolve into a baseless fanboy flame war. Thanks!
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Posted: 2009-03-16 04:58:12
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On 2009-03-16 04:58:12, borisisinvin wrote:
Fair enough, and I can respect your honest preference. TBH it was really pleasant talking to you about it all anyways, and for once it was a refreshing change to not have the conversation/debate devolve into a baseless fanboy flame war. Thanks!
Oh well, definitely no problem here!
We still practice our discussion skills.
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Posted: 2009-03-16 11:04:20
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sorry if this has been posted before,but i want to use the SE media player as the default media player.Is there a way you can get a normal shortcut in the menu?
thank you
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Posted: 2009-03-16 16:33:29
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Tigershark42 Posts: > 500
I think there was a .cab file made on XDA-developers which allowed the media-xperience and radio panels to be used as programs as well as panels. This way, you could be on one particular panel, while still using either of those music panels. Yeah, its Pubba Panel Installer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2009-03-22 14:16 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-17 08:59:59
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Apparently R3 on the way with new things like a new keyboard...
No info WHEN officially but already leaked at xda devs...
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Posted: 2009-03-17 21:32:08
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On 2009-03-14 22:44:41, borisisinvin wrote:
As is, the dpad's pretty unusable as a navigation tool, and that's fact.
No, it's not fact; it's your opinion. I find the X1's D-Pad fine. It could have been a little better designed, but for me, it's fine. I can see how some people, like yourself, could find it unusable - as I said, it could have been a little better designed. But it's personal preference, not fact
[ This Message was edited by: l337h1um on 2009-03-18 22:47 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-18 23:44:31
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When installing programs, e.g Batti, Xperia Tweak etc do you install them on to the device or can you install them on to the storage card, which has much more room on it then the phone?
Will they work if there installed on to the storage card?
Cheers
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Posted: 2009-03-19 19:59:21
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