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the entire essence of christianity is that it is not forced but a choice. no child should feel compelled into religion, but should be encouraged to find God and have their own personal relationship. i'll agree with brix. to a point. but then again, i won't let my daughter pierce her ears until she can choose to.
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Posted: 2006-09-28 21:38:26
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On 2006-09-28 21:38:26, Siosal wrote:
no child should feel compelled into religion
I totally agree with that, but as you know, many fundamentalists in several religions feel that they are doing 'good' by compelling them, or that it is some 'duty' that they are fulfilling.
In such cases, then yes- 'indoctrination' can be a fitting and unfortunate word to use.
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Posted: 2006-09-28 21:55:37
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On 2006-09-28 21:38:26, Siosal wrote:
...i won't let my daughter pierce her ears until she can choose to...
My sentiments exactly! I give my daughter as much freedom as a 6year old could need, but i also know where to draw the line. I encourage her to think, evaluate and question, always question... She goes along to church, but when she wants to know the whys and wherefores i don't use the Father-daughter "my word is law" line on her. On the contrary, i try to explain why we go to church, why i choose to worship God, why i pray, and so forth. I'm certainly pleased that she's emulating her mother and me, but if the day dawns that she announces her decision to investigate other faiths, i'd be the last to stand in her way. Many of us experience God in different ways, whether we like it or not. Even the atheist has experiences of peace and tranquility which are akin to the peace which a Christian/Muslim/Buddhist may feel...
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Posted: 2006-09-28 22:13:00
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Well said to both da krypsya and amawanqa...We briefly spoke this evening and we'll be having a meeting, hopefully on the weekend.
BTW, anyone using Google Desktop...downloaded it last week and it's absolutely brilliant, especially when it comes to news feeds...basically what it does is collect RSS feeds from all the sites you visit and put them in a nice order. I love it.
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Posted: 2006-09-28 23:11:20
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Did you guys see that Z550 update that was launched amongst the other minor-tweeked SE handsets launched today?
Called the Z558, the little clamshell phone comes with a dinky stylus and handwriting recognition software to use on its 176x220 pixel display...on a flip phone...well that's a first.
Also, I had a brief fiddle with a Motorola KRZR at the local CPW store today.It was a bit hard to miss, with its tacky-looking bright metallic blue fascia. The middle vertical length of the outside fascia is actually a blue tinted mirror finish, ideal for those who enjoy looking at themselves or those that would find the mirror effect handy for squeezing blackheads and zits out when stuck in rush hour traffic.
I must sound like such a Motophobe, but I've never slagged off the RAZR as such, and the Motorola A800 was one of the best handsets I've owned to date. The RAZR's still have a distinctive, classy look to them, even if they are now somewhat dated. But this latest offering really doesn't ooze that same chic, suave appeal that the RAZR did; this is just lurid glitz n' bling. (IMO, of course.) There'll be others that will love it purely for this, but count me out.
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Posted: 2006-09-28 23:46:55
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Just a quick joke, and ten thousand apologies if i have told it before, but it is one of my favourite jokes.
What do you get if you cross an atheist with a dyslexic (sorry spelling) and an insomniac?
A person who lies awake at night wondering if there is a dog:)
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Posted: 2006-09-29 01:03:00
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lol Francois!
Here's one that always makes me smile:
A father is in church with his 3 young children, including his five year old daughter. He sat in the very front row so that the children could properly witness the service. During this particular service, the minister was performing the baptism of a tiny infant. The little five year old girl was taken by this, observing that the minister was saying something and pouring water over the infant's head. With a quizzical look on her face, the little girl turned to her father and asked, "Daddy, why is he brainwashing that baby?"
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Posted: 2006-09-29 05:34:00
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lol Kryptic, that one hits the spot, a sensitive spot in our country i recon.
That is always the one thing that has puzzled me: why baptize babies? i thought it was a personal choice, the bible was clear on that, and then every single baby has to get the sprinkles.
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Posted: 2006-09-29 08:07:06
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I'm glad everyone agrees then...
Particularly with me..... :/
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Posted: 2006-09-29 08:10:17
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The thing is, there are religions that just about force you into them. Sometimes Christianity has become that, but that is in a form where it has lost the plot. The thing about being a Christian is a relationship with God, not a forced relationship, a willing one, one where you choose to have it. God gave us the freedom of choice, the freedom to choose Him or reject Him. So in that sense, I have a negative connotation to the word "Religion", since religion has become the nr.1 enemy of the church. When I hear that word, I think of everything the pharisees got up to in the Bible, basically trying to do stuff to get into heaven. If Christianity was the whole "Earn your way into heaven" thing, it would be dead. Too bad 90% of the time that is what happens.
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Posted: 2006-09-29 09:15:03
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