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AlanDS Posts: 43

Thanks niranjan & rahul
You both are simply great.

Anyone else?
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Posted: 2006-04-10 19:06:08
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abnerfurtado Posts: 1

hi every 1 n Hi Alan........dude pls help me ya... i can surf internet on PC but i cant do chatting on Yahoo, Msn, Rediff.......... i 've downloaded the latest messengers.......pls get some trick for this......again i am getting speeds of arround 5-6kbps.......pls tell me how to increase the speed.......as others in this thread are getting 40 kbps..... ia m using nokia 6021, which is edge enable.........pls reply.... thank you......

Abner Furtado
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Posted: 2006-04-10 20:32:29
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jingboyx Posts: 168

Here is my opinion. Lets exclude mo since it is absolute full internet and there aint any port blocking involved in it. Now lets consider the other gprs plans . . . Airtel live and nop. Both of them use the same ip address and the same port 8080. So i assume that the port 8080 is always open regardless of the gprs plan. The only thing the Airtel server gotta do is to check the url of the Airtel live subscribers to see if the url is pointing outside their portal and then send the access denied page. So i believe the firewall has nothin to do here. Besides firewall are foolproof and cannot be hacked by pooling excess traffic. They work in a sequential manner and extra traffic would be queued and dealt with sequentially. So i believe the problem gotta be with the Airtel proxy which checks the url. Alternately this type of error could be caused if any of the Airtel servers or proxies relies on UDP protocol rather than TCP for its communication.
This is my opinion guys but am still uncertain. . .
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Posted: 2006-04-11 00:03:11
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AlanDS Posts: 43

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On 2006-04-10 20:32:29, abnerfurtado wrote:
but i cant do chatting on Yahoo, Msn, Rediff.......... i 've downloaded the latest messengers.......pls get some trick for this......again i am getting speeds of arround 5-6kbps.......pls tell me how to increase the speed.......as others in this thread are getting 40 kbps..... ia m using nokia 6021, which is edge enable

I think you are getting very lower speed. To be able to login to the messengers, you should have atleast 30kbps. How much signal you get from Airtel tower(BST)? & where u have checked the gprs speed(I mean in which site?) I think you know the difference b/w kbps & KBps

[ This Message was edited by: AlanDS on 2006-04-11 04:24 ]
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Posted: 2006-04-11 05:15:22
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AlanDS Posts: 43

Quote:
On 2006-04-11 00:03:11, jingboyx wrote:
Here is my opinion. Lets exclude mo since it is absolute full internet and there aint any port blocking involved in it. Now lets consider the other gprs plans . . . Airtel live and nop. Both of them use the same ip address and the same port 8080. So i assume that the port 8080 is always open regardless of the gprs plan. The only thing the Airtel server gotta do is to check the url of the Airtel live subscribers to see if the url is pointing outside their portal and then send the access denied page. So i believe the firewall has nothin to do here. Besides firewall are foolproof and cannot be hacked by pooling excess traffic. They work in a sequential manner and extra traffic would be queued and dealt with sequentially. So i believe the problem gotta be with the Airtel proxy which checks the url. Alternately this type of error could be caused if any of the Airtel servers or proxies relies on UDP protocol rather than TCP for its communication.
This is my opinion guys but am still uncertain. . .

Thanks jingboyx for the view/theory
Anyone else? Please post. Lets have some knowledge.
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Posted: 2006-04-11 05:20:52
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abnerfurtado Posts: 1

Hi every1, ALAN thnks 4 d reply, dude i m getting connectivity speed of 115 kbps, but when i surf d sites its very low, as i 've checked d speed using a software known as netmeter, which shows 5-6kbps, even when i check my yahoo mail my account doesnt open, it shows me d same sign in page, whereas i can acess hotmail, but not a single mssenger, can u tell me how 2 get access 2 yahoo mail, i m using gprs by tunneling through airtelmms.com, as i tried all other tricks but no use.... I am a maharashtra subcriber, frm vasai......Pls also tell me d diff. Btwn kbps n KBps, thnk u .....Abner Furtado (nokia 6021) This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2006-04-11 07:01:26
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AlanDS Posts: 43

I think u r lucky as u get net through mms APN. Please note that the 115kbps is not the connection speed. Its the port speed. If u are getting 4-5KBps then its normal. Please multiply the speed u r getting with 8. That will give u speed in "kbps". By the way, have u configured the proxy settings in messengers? Yahoo has bug which cause problems in IE. So delete all cookies and try again.
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Posted: 2006-04-11 07:14:00
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nikhilkerala Posts: 0

@Alan,

Talking about solutions for Airtel, if it was me to find one, I would have simply seperated the LIVE! and MO server....
If they use another server for LIVE!, which runs a web server s/w on it and having all the contents of LIVE! stored on its HDD(we know, it's not much), there wont be any need for the real Internet connected to that server. Once there is no internet connection on Live! server, what ever we do, we gets only the contents of Live!, may be free downloads if we hack onto it....
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Posted: 2006-04-11 07:22:40
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ronny123 Posts: 19

the airtel ppl know wats going on. Do u think they can't stop it? If they decide to they can stop it.they don't wanna lose their customers.many operators in uk also do this.
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Posted: 2006-04-11 08:05:00
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Helloman2073 Posts: 0

had ne1 been able to make free pc to pc calls through Yahoo messenger? if not then pleeez try and find out a solution to this problem( freedom doesnot allow you to make free pc to pc calls). ne1 pleeeez help.... waiting 4 a positive reply....
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Posted: 2006-04-11 08:06:01
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