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markztrance Posts: 137

@ sombra:

is the way of flashing k750i cid 49 in xs++ 3.0 the same as the previous version of xs??
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Posted: 2007-11-14 16:15:13
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cronos555 Posts: 110


On 2007-11-14 15:58:19, bravemenrun wrote:
Please help:
Did I get it right? IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONTROL ISO IN RELATIONSHIP TO SHUTTE SPEED WITH LEETIRANS MOD OF RAIDERSKI 6.6? That would be awesome! I've been waiting for this for ages! Well, at least for some time.
How do I set the ISO? Because when opening the driver with the config tool, theres no ISO setting... it's just like the original Raiderski driver...
Please help!
And THANKS to all you modding people!

yes it is, i already posted about this. to set ISO, you basically tweak EV, which by default in Raider's driver is at +0.3. so after launching camera, set your d-pad to +0.3, then use the zoom keys and set to 2.0, this gives ISO 80 on w810. so on the w810, 2.0=ISO80, 2.1=ISO100, 2.2=ISO125, 2.3=ISO160, 2.4=ISO200, ... 2.7=ISO400. i don't use anything higher than ISO 400. note, for the ISO to work well, also adjust shutter speed accordingly. shutter is at +0.7. look at the shutter speed chart in the readme file included in Raider's driver. make sure you tap the shutter button to enable SSP (shutter speed preview) so you can see in realtime your ISO and shutter settings on the picture. it's pretty sweet

this only works with leetiran's mod of Raider's driver.
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Posted: 2007-11-14 17:17:30
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bravemenrun Posts: 10

Great!
I changed the order of settings with the config tool, does the ISO setting
remain at the place where EV is originally? Because I moved it to +07
Is there preview for ISO? Or can I see the result only with shutter speed preview?
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Posted: 2007-11-14 17:35:03
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cronos555 Posts: 110


On 2007-11-14 17:35:03, bravemenrun wrote:
Great!
I changed the order of settings with the config tool, does the ISO setting
remain at the place where EV is originally? Because I moved it to +07
Is there preview for ISO? Or can I see the result only with shutter speed preview?

i haven't tried re-arranging the order with the config tool, but in theory it should still work. whatever you set EV at, that's what you need to change to adjust ISO. yes you can see the effect of changing ISO after you enable SSP.
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Posted: 2007-11-14 17:45:09
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bravemenrun Posts: 10

Thanks, it works just fine!
Another question and sorry if bothering you (I'm quite newbie)
About sharpness: Does a higher value more sharp images or a smaller value?

And another question: Why is shutter speed restricted to 4 seconds? I'd like to take long time exposure photos of cars rolling by and such, therefore I'd need shutter speeds up to 10 or more seconds... isn't that possible? I thought lpuachuongs A4A had longer possible shutter times

[ This Message was edited by: bravemenrun on 2007-11-14 16:57 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-14 17:47:37
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Raiderski Posts: > 500

sorry guys i'm totally out of free time
quick answers:

bravemenrun
bigger values should be sharper. for K750/W800/W810 max good value is 6, sometimes 5

679
you can play with value [i]SHUTTER_SPEED[i] (decrease this value: 3f,3e,3d,3c,3b,3a,39,38,...)

moonmoth
nope, 21.92 is only modded 21.91 by Kriomag where MXE-60 was out of sync (because of too high jpeg quality during compression)


by the way...


On 2007-11-03 01:51:23, cronos555 wrote:
... i manually set shutter to 1/13s and i manually set EV to zoom 2.0. look at the results of series of shots below ... each increase of EV resulted in an increase in ISO. did this many times. same result each time. i think we have found how to control ISO!

Setting EV anything lower than 2.0, resulted in ISO 80 shot since the w810 can't set ISO lower than 80.

shot 1: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.0 = ISO 80
shot 2: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.1 = ISO 100
shot 3: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.2 = ISO 125
shot 4: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.3 = ISO 160
shot 5: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.4 = ISO 200
shot 6: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.5 = ISO 160 - my error went down instead of up
shot 7: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.6 = ISO 320
shot 8: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.7 = ISO 400
shot 9: shutter 1/13s, EV 2.8 = ISO 500


in fact yes, we can say about this "ISO control". we can consider this in pure logical way:

if we lock shutter speed (exposure time) at selected time then we can not change (increase) exposure time for more "brightness" (more light on sensor). so the only way is to increase ISO for more light - this is very respectable behaviour of the camera

with leetiran mod:
- we are able to lock shutter speed at ISO100
- achieve exactly this exposure value which we want (manual shutter speed)

with cronos555 idea and leetiran mod:
- we are able to lock shutter speed at any ISO value
- achieve exactly this exposure value which we want (manual shutter speed)

unfortunatly to control ISO you have to first lock shutter speed (EV+0.7) at any value and then change exposure compensation (EV+0.3). maybe if i'll find easier control then 6.7 will be released

cheers


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W800 CID36 R1BD001
www.tinyurl.com/2c3quo (gallery)
www.tinyurl.com/ysc2wm (driver + config tool)

[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2007-11-14 17:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-14 17:59:27
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Raiderski Posts: > 500

bravemenrun
shutter speed is limited to max 2 seconds only because higher value will crash K750/W800. W810 isn't crash affected but probably 2 seconds are still max value for our phones. total exposure time can be sometimes higher than 2 sec. (in EXIF "2 sec." is visible) but i don't know why

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Posted: 2007-11-14 18:10:09
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bravemenrun Posts: 10

Thanks for your replies raiderski,
I own a w810i, can you tell me how I need to change your driver to obtain
more than only 2 seconds shutter speed? That would be fantastic.
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Posted: 2007-11-14 18:31:04
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Sombra Posts: 165

@markztrance

Yes, is the same.
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Posted: 2007-11-14 19:17:34
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Randolph Posts: 115

@all: how can I find out what driver was used for taking a photo with the K750i? I have several pictures with extraordinary quality, but at least we do not know what driver was used some months ago... Any idea thar could help???
kind regards,
Randolph
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Posted: 2007-11-14 23:04:04
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