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aps Posts: 66

is there firmware thread for x1?
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Posted: 2009-08-07 04:10:31
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number2 Posts: 113


Can we get this right for once, the X1 is not such a great phone, ive read with interest Domistrys comments, but he is blinkered to its faults, there are so many better phones out there, although of course ''better'' is a matter of opinion, but, the X1 has issues that SE never seem to have got on top of, finding a quality multi-function, business phone, with camera, windows mobile, and all the other features we require, is no longer a matter of sticking with our favorite manufacturer, look at the alternatives, xda-developers are a good starting point, SE are not the STARS they once were.
GOOD LUCK.
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Posted: 2009-08-21 23:32:24
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doministry Posts: > 500


On 2009-08-21 23:32:24, number2 wrote:

Can we get this right for once, the X1 is not such a great phone, ive read with interest Domistrys comments, but he is blinkered to its faults, there are so many better phones out there, although of course ''better'' is a matter of opinion, but, the X1 has issues that SE never seem to have got on top of, finding a quality multi-function, business phone, with camera, windows mobile, and all the other features we require, is no longer a matter of sticking with our favorite manufacturer, look at the alternatives, xda-developers are a good starting point, SE are not the STARS they once were.
GOOD LUCK.


Well but which are better for you?
Just say it.
I've chosen X1 and as I was really critical, I found it great.
Nothing new is making me get it ASAP. New devices do not perform a cruical change or jump,
no HTC which does really anything new.
As I wrote - we have requirements, personal,
so for what I do etc. it serves better than well.

And sure it has flaws, but there's nothing without it.
I read a lot of reviews and all the new "stars" also perform serious shotcomings.
That's it.
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Posted: 2009-08-22 02:40:21
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koto Posts: > 500

Agree with Doministry, I don't see anything new that can replace my X1. And after 7-8 months of usage I am more and more satisfied, simply amazing phone with super apps. Probably X2 will be my next choice:-)
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Posted: 2009-08-22 07:37:36
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doministry Posts: > 500

I'd say similar. X2 probably, however
it's to be seen what Windows 6.5 will show,
for now I have a really mixed emotions about it's UI.
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Posted: 2009-08-22 15:39:35
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waibun_lee Posts: 264

I personally agree with number2, these days you don't really get rewarded with brand loyalty. SE used to be a company in the forefront of innovation but now has slipped down the slope and is becoming struggling company. The xperia I thought was going to be great but it wasn't at all, the build quality is poor, the software unusable and a repair centre that seems to be run by idiots after I rang them about the chip on the side of my xperia which was no older than 2 months. Sure the software side maybe subjective to the user but even the most diehard users have to agree that hunting down cabs and transferring them over then installing them is a pain.

On a side note another issue with SE has always been release dates, they announce a phone and it’s not released for best part of half a year if not more. The fact they try to fill the time between handsets with the same old generic mid-end phones is awful. The X2? I think I’m gonna give that one a miss.
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Posted: 2009-08-22 17:29:40
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number2 Posts: 113

Thanks Walbun Lee,
You have managed to put those points far more eloquently than me, the X1 has some good features, but build quality, late release, pointless panels and SEs usual poor support,to mention but a few things combined to give an Xperience that never lived up to my expectations, though some have allowed brand loyalty to blinker them to the X1s short comings, the phone will not be remembered as ground breaking, but a pretty flawed short term fix by SE, buying in HTCs expertise, whilst not ensuring that the software, and production were up to an acceptable standard.
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Posted: 2009-08-23 01:32:44
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doministry Posts: > 500


On 2009-08-22 17:29:40, waibun_lee wrote:
I personally agree with number2, these days you don't really get rewarded with brand loyalty. SE used to be a company in the forefront of innovation but now has slipped down the slope and is becoming struggling company. The xperia I thought was going to be great but it wasn't at all, the build quality is poor, the software unusable and a repair centre that seems to be run by idiots after I rang them about the chip on the side of my xperia which was no older than 2 months. Sure the software side maybe subjective to the user but even the most diehard users have to agree that hunting down cabs and transferring them over then installing them is a pain.

On a side note another issue with SE has always been release dates, they announce a phone and it’s not released for best part of half a year if not more. The fact they try to fill the time between handsets with the same old generic mid-end phones is awful. The X2? I think I’m gonna give that one a miss.



Personally I don't care about any loyalty.
I buy what I like and keep what works well.
It's always like that: there are happy, whining and unhappy about anything.
That's how it goes.

Some of users like some features, some not.... Whatever.
My X1 is the best SE I had. Just like that.
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Posted: 2009-08-23 04:13:10
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doministry Posts: > 500


On 2009-08-23 01:32:44, number2 wrote:
though some have allowed brand loyalty to blinker them to the X1s short comings, the phone will not be remembered as ground breaking, but a pretty flawed short term fix by SE


Sorry mate but this is a little bulls..t.

BTW X1 was the first smartphone with 480 x 800 screen
and with this quality.

"pretty flawed" that's funny indeed.

Can you show me really, obviously much greater, not flawed device around?
I'm curious.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2009-08-23 03:19 ]

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Posted: 2009-08-23 04:17:44
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koto Posts: > 500

@doministry
I also had mixed emotions about windows mobile. At one point I was actually missing UIQ badly and even looked at the new Iphone- I simply can't stand poor software performance. Then I realised that core player, which I constantly use, is the big culprit-probably not fully optimised for xperia. It should be closed after usage. Also I found and start to use speed booster - I would call it windows mobile swiss pro:-) Finaly I found apps 'informant' and 'midomi'. The first is amazing pim apps - as I am a manager in a bank I needed something like that. The second is id track which is the single one app I missed from P1.
So I can understand those people who don't like xperia or winmo in general. It is rather strange operating system. But after one bring it to the desired state it becomes a killer machine. As you said, this is by far the best SE phone I had.



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Posted: 2009-08-23 18:44:36
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