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@jmash: I got the Nano
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Posted: 2006-10-15 11:02:03
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lol, all true. I just know for a fact it is not worth giving lip to cops, because i might get my ass kicked. In my experience taking down a rapist one time, police brutality is pretty bad, beyond the law, and they do not give a $h!te about anyones rights, and no court will give a bloody hell if you go and report anything the police did to you illegaly. And i have to be gay to run to Oprah. I refuse to be a martyr for the 'die polisie is mislik met my en ander onskuldige mense' arguement. There is much more value in dying for a worthy cause, and that aint it. Also, with last nights thing, the one cop was black, the other white, so yeah...
People amaze me, and that is why yesterdays happening makes me laugh so much. We complain about safety and security in our country, but when a cop looks at us funny we throw our toys out the cot and go on about human rights. In that little sense you give cops too much credit-they cannot magically see who is a criminal and who aint, and they never will be able to.
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Posted: 2006-10-15 13:37:51
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The best is to accept the human element, some cops will be assholes, but in the same breath, if you are blameless and did not even look at them funny and know how to subtly give them the finger, by all means do, but today people want just about everything handed on a silver platter. That aint going to happen. The first thing that we will lose in this country if we want safety and security is privacy. You want one thing, you will have to sacrifice another.
Sorry if i offend anyone with this arguements, but people dont think. There are two sides to every arguement, and us as humans like to argue for the side we believe in. I believe in truth, so once again i argue for whatever side will challenge people to try to think of the situation from both sides.
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Posted: 2006-10-15 13:45:48
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The law can only be as effective & moral as those who are entrusted with keeping it. And if a cop takes things into his own hands once, he'll do it again & again.
Do you know how many times a policeman has demanded cigarettes from me? Is that peaceful?
[ This Message was edited by: psychonymphe on 2006-10-15 13:26 ]
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Posted: 2006-10-15 14:13:00
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And i have no prob doing that til i see how lazily they work. They never pitch up anywhere in this town when called! Im being dead serious. When it comes to personal grievences there is only ever 1 side to a story. Bottom line here is unaccountability.
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Posted: 2006-10-15 14:21:00
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I have a huge respect for police officers, even though i've been on the receiving end (i deserved it, i may add) of police violence a time or two. For a number of years i did voluntary duty as a police reservist, so i've seen the circumstances under which they work. They see the most terrible crime-scenes imaginable, are vilified by the public in general, and work for a pittance. So often they're hampered by regulations which prevent them from doing their jobs effectively, and are subjected to the whims of pen-pushers who've never seen rigorous active duty. What's downright scary is that there isn't even enough money to buy body armour for each police officer... who of us haven't heard shots fired, either in our own neighbourhoods or close by? Well, imagine being a cop on patrol... without body armour... and at the back of your mind is the knowledge that even a little .22 bullet can penetrate the bodywork of the vehicle in which you're travelling.
Like i said, i have a huge respect for police officers...
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Posted: 2006-10-15 14:34:00
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On a much lighter note...
I wonder if this was the work of a particularly talented esatonian while on holiday...:
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Posted: 2006-10-15 15:14:33
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lol! That picture is quite, um, creative! Wish i had time to waste on sandcastles.
Like i might have mentioned before, corruption is the achilles heel in our country. Cops do not get enough for what they do, so yeah, what motivation do they have?
But if one can get a corrupt cop in action(camera phones are great for that) then good.
My friend Handsome and his brother were driving around the one night, and got pulled over by the cops and thrown in the back of a cheesevan. Apparently 2 black guys stole a golf in the area, and they perfectly fit the description of the suspects. While in there a bunch of officers came and swore at them and made intense racist remarks. One lady came and sprayed pepper spray into the back of the van almost suffocating them, being racist and vulgar. Eventually the cops realised they got the wrong chaps, and first made sure all the suspect cops fled the scene before letting them out. A perfect example of corruption. Handsome was not impressed...he was highly pissed off...
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Posted: 2006-10-15 16:16:21
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It was very wrong what happened to him, and despite his anger he chose to forgive and let go. There was nothing else to do.
You know, he is a great guy for that. How much do we as people just bitch and moan, and not forgive and go on as if the world owes us everything? Handsome sets a great example. He would have pursued a case if he could have, but with pepper spray you cannot see the difference between a badge number and a phone number. And he chose to rather just let it go. And he did not speak to many about it. Look, bad things are going to happen to us, but there are many worse things happening out there, and there will never be justice for those things. One has to know when to let go and when to rip out the phone and record a video clip of injustice and have the guilty party get the crap they deserve.
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Posted: 2006-10-15 16:25:30
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@kryptik, many people in SA are paid next to nothing. For example nurses. The circumstances under which they work are also often atrocious. But is it okay for a nurse to dismiss procedure? Not in my mind, no matter how i can empathise. Patients need to...
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Posted: 2006-10-15 16:40:00
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