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Greetings from "Kubansky lamer"
Excuse my english
[ This Message was edited by: Ing. FijoK on 2004-10-31 18:57 ]
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Posted: 2004-10-30 19:59:19
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On 2004-10-30 16:36:38, absinthebri wrote:
I'd vote for Saddam; the US needs a complete regime change.
This message was posted from a T68i
but which Saddam?Husein or another Saddam?
fijok,doesn't seem to you,you're useless flamin' here.
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[ This Message was edited by: boto43 on 2004-10-30 19:46 ]
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Posted: 2004-10-30 20:43:00
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@Ing. FijoK
Care to explain your reasoning?
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Posted: 2004-10-30 20:43:51
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scot,you could explain why bin ladin should be caught right now.You mean the elections in the country of red indians and cowboys.
But to say that bush and kerry are killers that's a bit strong "coffee ".
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Posted: 2004-10-31 12:18:00
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@boto43
Spot on, and I rather like your turn of phrase
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Posted: 2004-10-31 14:12:53
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who won there hm in america ?
a Bush or any Bushes
or how is plural from Bush
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Posted: 2004-11-05 13:57:15
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morning eu....
how's going???
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[ This Message was edited by: sorac on 2004-12-11 10:49 ]
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Posted: 2004-12-11 11:48:33
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It's going so - so.
Pls,don't provoke us so early morning.
You could tell us what you bought to xmas to all your friends and relatives.
I'm very curious to know it.
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Posted: 2004-12-11 11:54:00
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hi all mates,(european,or not,man,or a guy,woman or a lesbian,hi all)
@boto43,you ve forgetten "Turkey s MIT and Israel s MOSSAD"
@scotsboyuk,I agrre mostly ur opinions,we ve to built up peace,we ve to improve peace
@mincka,you are wrong,Turkey s not an islamic country,hasnt got an islamic party,she has a conservative right party.
well Actually,sometimes I ve read some basic,so simple statements about Turks and Turkey.Well lets allow me little bit to write about what s Turkey and what isnt?
I am surprised by a great deal of misinformation about Turkey's European credentials. Turkey has always identified itself with Europe and the West. First of all, Turkey was a European power in the past and ruled extensive parts of Europe for centuries. During this period cultural exchange and integration took place and Turkish art and customs were introduced into Europe including Turkish baths, coffee, Turkish carpets to mention just a few. It is not a coincidence that the Ottoman Empire was referred to as ¿the sick man of Europe¿ during its decline. Anatolia is the birth place of civilizations which influenced European civilization.
As regards geography, a significant part of Turkey is in Europe, this part is larger than may European states and Istanbul alone with a population of some 12 million is one of Europe's largest cities. The fact that Cyprus, which is a geographical extension of the Anatolian mainland and situated at the most easterly part of Turkey, is considered as part of Europe makes the geographical arguments untenable. Since the establishment of the Republic of Turkey 80 years ago as a secular state, Turkey has always identified itself with the west in general and Europe in particular. Apart from being a member of the Council of Europe, it is a member of all European institutions and European as far as Eurovision, football, posts, communications etc. are concerned. It is the only candidate state which has a customs union with the European Union. Its trade and industry is integrated with Europe and Turkish industrial products from automobiles to electronics from textiles to ceramics are widely marketed in European countries.
For over half a century Turkey has been a member of NATO and as the only Moslem member this has never caused a problem and it has never been objected to. She has proved to be one of the most loyal allies of the west from participating in Korea to all Nato peace keeping operations in Europe. It is objected that the boundaries of Europe would reach Arab countries and the Middle East. In fact this would provide a useful buffer zone. No one had objected when during the cold war Turkey was the only NATO member with a boundary with USSR. The Turkish armed forces have always been and continue to be the largest after the United States and this can only contribute to the security and defense of Europe. From the economic point of view only the negative aspects of the Turkish economy are mentioned. In fact she is the 16th/ 17th largest economy in the world. Merely looking at the final pages of the Economist magazine will show that its growth is far higher the any other European country (approximately 8%) and its industrial output has consistently grown in recent years and most recently by over 15%. Millions of Europeans take their holidays in Turkey and enjoy being there. (bodrum,antalya,adana,kusadasi,ayvalik,sarimsakli plaji,avsa,fethiye,oludeniz,Meryem ana evi,Sumela,Trabzon,Diyarbakir Surlari,Bosphorus,Istanbul,Izmir,Bursa,Ankara,Samsun,Giresun,kemer,kuscenneti...etc...so much)
Granted there is room for improvement as in any other country. No country is perfect in all respects. The Turkish people are aware of this and every effort is being made to achieve improvements in areas where there are failings. In any event there will be a transitional period before full membership. In spite of all the above, to deny Turkey¿s European credentials can only arise from ignorance or prejudice. It is important that Turkey is not distracted from her European vision. This vision not something new. It is a vision that goes back decades and its association with the European Union began at the same time as Greece in 1963. It was thanks to Turkey¿s action against the Greek Junta in Cyprus in 1974 that the Junta collapsed and Greece resumed democracy thereby accelerating its European Union membership.
I don't see any reason why Turkey shouldn't be given the opportunity to join the EU. The EU is a trading bloc and is supposed to be inclusive of cultural and religious differences. The boundaries of the EU should not be constrained to traditional geopolitical 'European' boundaries. What if Russia or Ukraine wanted to join the EU? Would their geographic or historical situation be seen as a hindrance to EU accession? I have read some upsetting views, on why Turkey should, not join the EU. Turkey has a lot of going for it, and hard working population. They do share their history with Europe, and have has much right has Greece to join. Turkey, should be allowed to join, and become part of the EU, (they are already in NATO, there was not a problem when they joined that happy group) I am for anything that can make other people's lives better, not just wealthy western Europeans.
"Our mother is love! Our father is love!
We are born from love! We are love!
All loves constitute a bridge leading to the divine love.
To love human beings means to love GOD."
-Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi (1207-1273)
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@clearday,I havent said anything wrong (or better bad) about Turkey.
I spent my holliday in your country 4 years ago and I was very suprised how developed country Turkey is.
I dont care about any secret service in the world.Hope they dont care about me too.
Hows your stay in Slovakia.
Where are you now, in Bratislava.
and I am not absolutly against your joining to EU.
Maybe aquilla said something
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